Direct MSNBC video:
Michigan Voters: "Willing to ‘punish Joe Biden by making him a one-term president’ https://youtu.be/Usl4YMR6_68
How to commit intellectual suicide and political homicide all at once!
Skill issue. Biden should simply stop enabling the genocide.
Are you voting for Biden in the general election? Yes or no?
Will he stop promoting genocide?
Lol unlike Trump, Netanyahu’s buddy, who moved the embassy to Israel. Punish Biden, by helping Trump win, so that Trump can help Netanyahu demolish Palestine. Great plan.
No one asked about trump.
There’s only two parties and two candidates you dolt
I mean there are more than 2, just only 2 that really have a horse in the race.
How does that make it acceptable to support genocide?
The question is a yes or a no, very simple. No further information is needed. Are you voting for Biden in the general election?
Are you supporting genocide?
Like I said, you don’t need any further information to answer the question. It’s very simple, yes or no, are you voting for Biden in the general election?
This guy you’re arguing with is beyond being reasoned with. He’s voting with his current feelings, not his brain.
Its a simple yes no question, do you support the continued genocide of.the Palestinian people?
Please watch the segment and listen to the voters. Then discuss. Here’s the full segment:
No thanks I’ll pass on that. Also, that reply wasn’t for you, everyone knows you’re either voting for Trump or you’re ineligible to vote because you’re in Russia.
At this point Biden is the greater evil.
That may be the single stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
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Vote for the guy that’s helped facilitate the death of 40k people because the other guy would be worse, sounds more ignorant.
Blue is a cult too
Downvoted for telling folks to read the article. smdh
Never change, Internet.
And this is why Biden will lose and why Hillary lost. They don’t want to listen to the voters.
No
Trump thanks you for your vote. Enjoy your MAGA fascism.
So far BlueMAGA fascism looks identical to MAGA.
How?
Hm… looks like stupidity isn’t exclusively a republican thing.
I fully believe they are capable of making Joe Biden a one-term president and electing Donald Trump instead. But if their goals are to make the presidency less pro-Israel I guess I would say that plan of action is actually stupider than re-electing Biden.
If everyone is crystal clear that Biden will not be reelected this early, then it’s the DNC who will elect trump. Same thing happened with Hillary.
Capable? Polling is a catastrophe for Democrats. 45 has a high probability of returning to the White House.
Polling in Michigan is essentially 50/50. Polls have Trump up by within the margin of error, with an impossible 10-20% of people undecided or voting third party.
Meanwhile there is no likely voter screen on current polls, and when the NYT did a likely voter screen nationally it helped Biden (Trump historically overperforms among the low-propensity voters so that tracks).
And Trump has underperformed his polls in every race so far in the primaries.
And it’s 9 months until the election.
You’d rather be on the winning side of 39-42 but it’s pretty far from catastrophic.
Michigan is a state Biden won. If that being a dead heat is positive news for Democrats, that’s not positive. Besides, the RCP average has Trump at +5.1
Meanwhile there is no likely voter screen on current polls,
Based on your numbers, you were looking at the Emerson College poll for Michigan. There’s a Michigan-based poll of likely voters for only Michigan that has Trump leading 45 to 41.
And Trump has underperformed his polls in every race so far in the primaries.
The Republican primary has essentially been over since shortly after it began. I don’t know if we can really glean anything from it. This isn’t like Hillary vs Barack where it was actually contested and people thought they had to get to the primaries and vote.
And it’s 9 months until the election.
This is a very fair point, but Biden is -2.1 right now. Biden was approximately +5.4 at this point last election. Clinton was +2.8. These are RCP numbers.
I looked at the graphs for the national aggregate polling too and Trump is generally doing much better than in either previous election. The race obviously isn’t decided yet, but If I’m a DNC strategist I would be more than concerned because the electoral college does not structurally favor Democrats.
pretty far from catastrophic.
Fair. That was pretty hyperbolic.
Welcome to your daily “anyone who disagrees with me loves Trump” thread.
Who would you propose as a viable, progressive alternative to Trump and Biden?
That’s the best part: We’ve painted ourselves into a shitty corner and now we can’t get out without voting for someone we don’t want.
No progressive could possibly win because that’s not what Americans want. I’m surrounded by people who terrify me and I’m powerless to stop them.
This is why I’ve given up hope of ever having a government I consent to be ruled by.
Nothing makes me feel less American than an election.
That’s the best part: they don’t give a shit whether you consent to be ruled or not. 🙃
Which is kinda fucked considering the Declaration of Independence says they derive their power from the consent of the governed.
Which is a lie. Power comes from the monopoly on violence.
What a stupid world.
If that were true, non-violent people would have no power.
They don’t.
If I were to non-violently withhold taxes to protest this genocide, the government would violently drag me into prison.
Non-violent people only have power if there are violent people backing them up.
It’s not like the guards who walked Ruby Bridges into school were armed with stern faces.
