Everyone knows how rabidly reactionary and shitheaded the SW fandom became after the Disney acquisition but I’m finally at my breaking point with this latest wave of chud whining. The Acolyte got review bombed before it even aired because the showrunner is a lesbian and the leading actress is a gay enby. Also a clip of Stenberg from like 6 years ago made the rounds where she says the goal of a completely different project she was working on was to make white men cry and chuds who get all their news from youtubers thought she was talking about the Acolyte.

Fast forward to the show’s release, the chuds continue to whine about woke Star Wars despite the show’s first several episodes being pretty bland and mid in every regard. To disguise their actual reasons for hating the show (diverse cast and queer showrunner) they pull out the absolute most ridiculous reasons to bash it, including but not limited to:

  • “The writing is awful and the story sucks!” (the dialogue is genuinely quite bad at times but no worse than 95% of star wars projects. The general story is a mystery-thriller that’s compelling enough. Also these same people turn around and say the prequels are incredible so funny-clown-hammer)

  • “The show contracts and ruins the prequels!” alright time to put on my nerd cap because the media literacy of these fucking shitbags is nonexistent. “Dark side user” =/= Sith, Red-lightsaber-user =/= Sith, there are tons of darkside users in the galaxy but the Sith area very specific order that the jedi warred with for thousands of years before they were almost completely wiped out. Also half the point of the prequels was to show the Jedi are blinded by their hubris and waning connection to the force, the Sith were right under their nose the entire time and they were just too arrogant to see it, silly Darth Teeth man doesn’t ruin shit in your dog ass shit fuck childrens movies.

  • “The show RETCONS CANON in an UNACCEPTABLE WAY” this is because a prequel side character’s DOB was retconned and he’s a lot older now and appears in the show. These worthless fucks are sending death threats to Wookiepedia editors who change the character’s DOB and screaming that it’s vile yes that’s right it’s VILE to change a fictional background character’s birthday. Just take a look at the replies on that post, yes I know it’s the bird hellsite filled with ragebait but the responses like “oh well I thought that GATEKEEPING was a BAD THING nerd” are just so bleak. Art and media mean nothing to these people, their hobby is not watching Star Wars, its watching ragebait youtubers and getting violently angry about mundane things in shows they’ve never watched and aren’t interested in democracy-manifest Also these screaming manbabies keep referencing non-canon books and shit as “proof” of the show retconning things

The discourse around TLJ was bad but I think I’m finally done engaging with the SW fandom in any way shape or form. My brain has finally been broken by the chuds. I don’t think I’ll even tell people I like SW anymore because these shitbrains have just ruined it. And yes I know I need to touch-grass but if you don’t spend a decent amount of time in these SW fandom circles I promise you don’t know how bad it actually is

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  • micnd90 [he/him,any]@hexbear.net
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    I think Star Wars kinda sucked after Disney takeover. They are bland, unoriginal, and all the Disney + shows, including the beloved Mando S1 and S2 look terrible. There is certainly some gaslighting from the media class about Star Wars being good, and it creates a backlash and establishment of incel to chud pipelines via youtube. Picking Leslie Headland who is assistant of Harvey Weinstein, who wrote a play that is suspiciously similar to Weinstein’s abuses (essentially like OJ’s what if I did it) doesn’t help. As you said, they blame the state of the show on wokeness and diversity, instead of capital (i.e., Disney) making bad consoomer products. The OT was clearly a Vietnam war allegory. Empire fascist, bad. Rebel, good. It is about something. The Disney products are not about anything other than expanding the “lore” and milking the fandom. They have no coherent message to tell other than making products for people to consoom and be excited about next product. That’s why the Disney Star Wars are bad. One cannot tell the overarching themes of any of their shows and movies except for maybe Andor.

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      It is about something. The Disney products are not about anything other than expanding the “lore” and milking the fandom

      This is the greatest flaw of the Disney Era more than anything imo, and arguably all franchise media right now. That’s part of why, in addition to just pure nostalgia, the prequels have been reevaluated. They at least were going for something. The OT was also meant as a throwback to an older era in Hollywood. The Disney Era is a throwback to Star Wars, just with a sleeker coat of paint.

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        Disney’s non-tv/movie content has actually been decent (highlights are Doctor Aphra comics, multiple Vader comics, lots of the High Republic Era books/comics are good), but that isn’t something I expect most people to engage with. Don’t get me wrong they’re absolutely slop, but they at least move beyond just being strictly nostalgia re-writes of existing content like the sequel trilogy was.

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      The biggest thing imo is that there’s no central direction on which way to take the franchise. This is how you end up with a major film trilogy with not even basic story notes worked out in advance being given to three different directors all with radically different ideas (then reduced back to two). On the other hand, I guess it lets an Andor slip through the cracks every once in a while.

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        The fact that they did not plan out a coherent 3 movie plot was so bewildering. The fact they resurrected Palpatine for the last movie made me groan in theaters.

        I have the same problem with Endgame. They killed 1/2 of the Universe and then they made a TIME TRAVEL movie. I have mostly sworn off this slop since. I will catch a show here and there but I have zero expectations with these shows. Andor was good tho, in fact, almost accidentally so.

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          They killed 1/2 of the Universe

          Which is extremely silly. Thanos’ goal is supposed to be to save the universe from ‘overpopulation’, and instead of conjuring infinite energy, he just moves the point of overpopulation that he thinks is there back by a single doubling period.

          Writers should learn at least a little bit of math. At least up to the middle school stuff.

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    Can we just abandon star wars? I get it, chuds hate it for the wrong reasons, it is bad though. Everyone on twitter has to be all ‘well ackshually’ about the space fire, and how star wars has always had space explosions so its fine, but level with me: it does look a bit shit right? The fire on the outside of the ship.

    Its tough how bad The Last Jedi broke their brains. I came out of that theatre feeling electric, I loved that movie, but its been bottom of the barrel Disney schlock since.

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        I want the full 5 seasons of Andor originally planned, but just make it animated so we don’t have to deal with the harsh realities of Diego Luna aging throughout the process of producing multiple seasons of TV show.

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          If there’s anything Star Wars loves it’s an excuse to rerelease something - they can do the New Digitally Remastered Rogue One, with frame-by-frame AI-aging effects added on.

          …it won’t look great though.

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      I don’t know why people have to hold Star Wars so sacred, and I say this holding a pretty embarrassingly large love for it. Star Wars has always been kinda mid, and that’s especially true for all of the expanded content for it.

      Overall, the Acolyte is fine? It’s not particularly bad in an unusual way - like, it’s comparably bad to the Mandalorian. My only engagement with Star Wars discourse is listening to A More Civilized Age religiously - I outright refuse to engage with the broader fandom (same goes for anime - I avoid discussing it with anyone that isn’t a big ol commie).

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        Based AMCA enjoyer. I don’t get the hate for the acolyte either and I agree that fine is the way to describe it. Much like a lot of star wars, there are a lot of interesting things floating around in the background that will not get the show’s focus like I would want. Meanwhile, the main mystery could be alright depending on how it casts the Jedi at the end of it all, but I’m expecting they’ll fumble it. (I haven’t seen the most recent episode yet, so it may have already gone off the rails for all I know)

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        There was literally nothing like Star Wars before Star Wars.

        As someone who was alive in the 70’s, there really was nothing like it. Not that was any good and not in the main stream.

        I don’t mean there wasn’t science fiction or fantasy or whatever. I mean, it generally sucked and was low budget schlock.

        Lucas took that shit so seriously he practically had a heart attack making the first one. It shows, for audiences at the time, it was a game changer.

        It was a blockbuster where people were waiting in line for DAYS to see it.

        You look at it now and I can see how it’d look mid. But, it pretty much launched science fiction/fantasy movies as a mainstream thing.