Whoa - I’ve been reading this discussion and I went to look at what community it federated from, and I was really surprised to find it was Beehaw. I’m sorry you are encountering this here, but I notice that it’s largely not Beehaw users who are continuing interactions that do not meaningfully engage in this conversation. I think this discussion has gotten very heated on both sides (which I understand, I’m vegan myself). I notice you’re coming from kbin.social too - this is just a gentle reminder from a fellow kbin visitor to keep Beehaw’s community guidelines in mind as you’re visiting, and participate in debate with respect. Although you make awesome points, they aren’t being heard right now, except by folks in Beehaw, since they have community guidelines that promote this type of discussion in a respectful manner. It may be better to call this off and restart the conversation in our instance, or choose to respond only to folks who are practicing respectful debate.
Please don’t take the downvotes seriously, especially in Beehaw. Beehaw has downvotes disabled, so what we’re effectively having here is a kbin conversation following kbin rules in Beehaw. If you want to engage with folks who are downvoting you, I think it’s best to do that in our instance or elsewhere to be respectful of Beehaw’s guidelines.
I love the content and community here, and I would hate for our instance to be defederated from Beehaw because we’re not practicing awareness of the community we’re participating in.
Whoa - I’ve been reading this discussion and I went to look at what community it federated from, and I was really surprised to find it was Beehaw. I think this discussion has gotten very heated on both sides (which I understand, I’m vegan myself), but name calling doesn’t move the conversation forward. I notice you’re coming from kbin.social too - this is just a gentle reminder from a fellow kbin visitor to keep Beehaw’s community guidelines in mind as you’re visiting, and participate in debate with respect. I love the content and community here, and I would hate for our instance to be defederated from Beehaw because we’re not practicing awareness of the community we’re participating in and their guidelines.
I’m waiting for the other person to claim you’re hostile for calling vegans clinically insane and to show the “with respect” approach isn’t just a cover. I won’t hold my breath though.
Don’t play dumb, people are downvoting you because you pretend that seeing a picture of a steak evokes the same feelings as seeing a video of a kitten being tortured to death.
For people who aren’t hypocritical or suffering from cognitive dissonance, it is kind of the same. Sure it’s somewhat different, it’s just the after picture of torture and not active torture. There’s a reason laws prevent videotaping inside slaughterhouses. Cause it would turn off so. many. people. “How the sausage is made” is a phrase for a reason. Having statistically increased suicide rates in the industry speaks volumes.
Sure it’s somewhat different, it’s just the after picture of torture and not active torture
Ok so it’s different, got it. For a second I was concerned that ya’ll were really getting distressed when exposed to a picture of a meal, in the same way a video of an actively tortured animal would distress most people.
So you know they’re different, and yet pretend they’re the same to give yourself a moral high ground. Kinda hypocritical. Or do you suffer from cognitive dissonance?
Right. And do you have the same emotional response when seeing a picture of a steak and when seeing a video of a kitten being tortured and then burned alive?
Yes there’s no difference between a picture of a steak and fries on a plate, and a kitten being tortured then burned alive. Absolutely the same thing.
Not to vegans, they’re clinically insane.
Why is it better to kill a cow for profit/taste?
Both scenarios are needless killing of animals which is obviously terrible abuse.
Is caring about animal abuse insane?
Whoa - I’ve been reading this discussion and I went to look at what community it federated from, and I was really surprised to find it was Beehaw. I’m sorry you are encountering this here, but I notice that it’s largely not Beehaw users who are continuing interactions that do not meaningfully engage in this conversation. I think this discussion has gotten very heated on both sides (which I understand, I’m vegan myself). I notice you’re coming from kbin.social too - this is just a gentle reminder from a fellow kbin visitor to keep Beehaw’s community guidelines in mind as you’re visiting, and participate in debate with respect. Although you make awesome points, they aren’t being heard right now, except by folks in Beehaw, since they have community guidelines that promote this type of discussion in a respectful manner. It may be better to call this off and restart the conversation in our instance, or choose to respond only to folks who are practicing respectful debate.
Please don’t take the downvotes seriously, especially in Beehaw. Beehaw has downvotes disabled, so what we’re effectively having here is a kbin conversation following kbin rules in Beehaw. If you want to engage with folks who are downvoting you, I think it’s best to do that in our instance or elsewhere to be respectful of Beehaw’s guidelines.
I love the content and community here, and I would hate for our instance to be defederated from Beehaw because we’re not practicing awareness of the community we’re participating in.
Ah well, I am not big on veganism so I’ve no comment on this topic further.
Whoa - I’ve been reading this discussion and I went to look at what community it federated from, and I was really surprised to find it was Beehaw. I think this discussion has gotten very heated on both sides (which I understand, I’m vegan myself), but name calling doesn’t move the conversation forward. I notice you’re coming from kbin.social too - this is just a gentle reminder from a fellow kbin visitor to keep Beehaw’s community guidelines in mind as you’re visiting, and participate in debate with respect. I love the content and community here, and I would hate for our instance to be defederated from Beehaw because we’re not practicing awareness of the community we’re participating in and their guidelines.
I’m waiting for the other person to claim you’re hostile for calling vegans clinically insane and to show the “with respect” approach isn’t just a cover. I won’t hold my breath though.
They’re both clearly abuse, the steak used to be a living being who was tortured and killed for profit/taste.
Why are you people downvoting me? Do you think steaks don’t come from living cows?
Don’t play dumb, people are downvoting you because you pretend that seeing a picture of a steak evokes the same feelings as seeing a video of a kitten being tortured to death.
For people who aren’t hypocritical or suffering from cognitive dissonance, it is kind of the same. Sure it’s somewhat different, it’s just the after picture of torture and not active torture. There’s a reason laws prevent videotaping inside slaughterhouses. Cause it would turn off so. many. people. “How the sausage is made” is a phrase for a reason. Having statistically increased suicide rates in the industry speaks volumes.
Ok so it’s different, got it. For a second I was concerned that ya’ll were really getting distressed when exposed to a picture of a meal, in the same way a video of an actively tortured animal would distress most people.
So you know they’re different, and yet pretend they’re the same to give yourself a moral high ground. Kinda hypocritical. Or do you suffer from cognitive dissonance?
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Right. And do you have the same emotional response when seeing a picture of a steak and when seeing a video of a kitten being tortured and then burned alive?
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