• jorgesumle@lemmy.pt
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    1 year ago

    Too much propaganda… This guy banned men from leaving the country, lots of them died, for what? Now Ukrainian people must pay a huge debt for a war they didn’t want.

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      1 year ago

      The only party responsible for the war is Russia. If you invade another sovereign state with the express intention of toppling their government and installing your own, war is what you’re going to get.

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          1 year ago

          The article is garbage, becuase it assumes NATO acts as a cohesive unit beyond being a defensive alliance with a required (and barely enforced) 2% GDP expenditure. NATO as a whole will never send troops to Ukraine - the US and some of its allies MIGHT send aid beyond sending military supplies, but member states are never required to send aid outside of article 5 invasion triggers. Members are never kicked out or penalized in the alliance if they choose to not participate in the US’s forever wars.

          NATO did nothing in Donbass. It was Ukraine and a Russia backed seperatist movement making a series of cease fires, both sides ignoring them over and over, and way too many lives tragically lost. Donbass is not Russian or NATO territory.

          Yes there was an very harsh coup. Yes the following election was controversial. But the brutal world is Russia had zero reason to care outside of either US style “global cop” warmongering, or extreme paranoia with Ukraine maybe someday joining a defensive alliance. Ukraine is a sovereign nation, and their shitshow should have been their own.

          If Russia truely cared about the Crimean people instead of annexing them for empire building, they’d have opened their borders to Ukrainian migrants and refugees instead of invading.

          This isn’t a war between “NATO and Russia”, this is a war between Ukraine and a Russia that is either Warmongering in a sovereign nation to empire build, or a Russia that is Isreal levels of paranoid.

          • jorgesumle@lemmy.pt
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            1 year ago

            This is a proxy war. I don’t support the invasion, but I don’t want to pay taxes to support a corrupt regime and nazi fanatics like the Azov Batallion, and hardcore nationalists.