Chuck Grassley was at the forefront of pushing these claims to begin with.
I wonder where the idea came from to make Ukraine involved in the fake scandal, hmmmmmmmmm…
I mean, who would stand to gain from making that up!?
Whaaaat? At least Hunter Biden’s laptop is still full of incriminating evidence, right? And we’re going to get to see their amazing health care plan? And they’re going to lock up Hillary any moment? And we’re finally going to get that proof Obama is from Kenya? And…
I have go no problem seeing Biden go to jail IF he did crimes. But like the stolen election claims, this is just a lie the right is saying. There is no evidence for what they claim. Lies.
Trump on the other hand has lots of evidence of crimes. I even heard Trump ask a foreign hostile nation to help him win an election. And he even boasted “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, okay, and I wouldn’t lose any voters, okay?” Trump is running a cult.
I have go problem seeing Biden go to jail IF he did crimes.
100%. This is not even controversial or hypothetical: just point to all the Democrats clamoring for the return of Al Franken.
Oh wait, nobody ever talks about him? Even though he was unfairly sacrificed and railroaded as a political ploy by the GOP to try and undercut a movement they feared? And even himself appears to understand that’s sometimes the price of democracy, even if it sucks and he didn’t really deserve to be cancelled?
That’s all the proof anyone should need that “both sides are the same” is total fiction.
Al Franken still makes me sad. The Dems are always like 5 years behind the curve in how they deal with the Republicans. All the “gloves off Dark Brandon” shit is how we should have been messaging for years but it’s like the Democratic party is only JUST NOW starting to acknowledge what they’re up against.
I believe that Al Franken almost certainly wouldn’t have been pressured to resign if the “scandal” had dropped this year.
That’s the price of having actual ethical standards. Yes, Franken would be treated differently right now, but Democrats would still take the allegations seriously.
Remember that this happened at the peak of the then-nascent #MeToo movement. From a neutral observer’s standpoint, that movement “taking down” a Democrat goes a long way to establishing it as an independent, apolitical thing. Hypocrisy in that moment could have done a lot of PR damage and stopped other, more credible allegations from being taken seriously.
Franken has never publicly complained about how he was treated, as far as I am aware, and I think that’s because he knows his career was sacrificed in order to pay the cost of that movement sticking around. It sucks and it’s unfair, but that is how the game is played.
They sure had me fooled!
I know it’s a glass half empty headline. These tapes might exist. If something might exist it needs to be investigated and talked about ad nauseum until its lack of existence can be proven.
That’s the problem though, you can’t really prove a negative. By the nature of logic. At best, if it is a lie, the original source admits they lied.
Did Donald Trump eat so many Cheetos he actually turned orange? I’m not saying that’s true, I’m just asking the questions.
We need to shut down his Cheetos supply until we figure out what is really happening.
You can however reach a level of confidence about a negative.
Like, I can’t prove that putting my VR headset on didn’t actually send me to another world… but I’ve got a pretty high degree of confidence that it didn’t.
If something might exist it needs to be investigated and talked about ad nauseum until its lack of existence can be proven.
How exactly do you propose to do this, or am I missing the implied /s?
The /s
The only good thing about Grassley is that he is saving tax payers dollars by not collecting that sweet sweet government pension.
It’s almost like these politicians made a lot of noise because the person who is polling the strongest got indicted. I would honestly be relieved if both Biden and Trump went to jail. I’m really not looking forward to a 2024 election between Trump and Biden.
Wow. Who could ever have predicted this?!?!
