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Are we having an argument? Most likely I’m not trying to be a meanie, but I’m just struggling to understand / effectively communicate with yah.

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  • CarbonScored [any]@hexbear.nettoHistory@hexbear.netI'm curious
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    5 months ago

    Well, not all ice core data is equal. It depends on the rate of ice accumulation, so high accumulation sites will give much higher precision, especially for more recent years (say, the last few centuries). But my assumption is that low accumulation sites are where we get most of our much older data. I could be totally wrong as I’m talking out my behind.

    Low accumulation sites will smooth out the peaks to the scale of centuries, according to that other post, so what looks like 200 years of 300ppm could be a lot spikier in reality. Whether one can do some ‘further analysis’ I have no idea.

    I agree 100% with your second paragraph, there’s nothing I’m aware of that suggests CO2 has spiked liked this before. And it seems highly unlikely that it would’ve. And we may well have evidence to actually disprove such a theory.


  • Nah that’s fair, and I certainly have no idea what I’m talking about either. But my understanding is that “ice core data” is a compilation of data from various ice core sampling, including those ‘lowest accumulation sites’ where they’re saying you can only measure to the precision of centuries.

    Again, I don’t know, but I’m assuming we don’t have “high accumulation” ice core data for all of that history, so jumping 100+ ppm for a few decades and then falling again wouldn’t necessarily show up in those low accumulation sites.


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    Sadly practical prefix that I am not at all a skeptic - I just think this graph doesn’t show as much as one might argue.

    Isn’t ice core data actually only an indicator of ‘average’ CO2 concentration rolling over so many years (decades-centuries)? CO2 diffuses in fresh forming ice, and is already averaged over the ‘trapping’ period, so historical peaks and troughs would be largely smoothed out. I don’t think this graph alone is really precise enough to claim CO2 levels could never have reached current levels for at minimum some decades (not that we have any evidence to suggest it did).