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  • Personally I disagree with the statement, first off, I don’t see an alternative explanation offered. the point is an easy analogy to give them rough concepts. looking at the problems listed in the OP.

    Gmail users believe the only ways to access a Gmail account are through the official web client at mail.google.com, and the official Gmail app for iOS and Android.

    First off there… so the web client off the bat… what’s the problem there, that we aren’t burrying them with “oh if you like you can use alexandrite, or one of 30 other web clients, and then tell it the instance”. The point is we’re trying to reach out to the non tech savy. If their assumption gets them to something that works, then there isn’t a problem, just as not knowing that they can install an e-mail client to check their gmail, isn’t stopping them from using gmail.

    Now the andriod/ios clients, that is the one drawback, you do have to tell them the name of one of the apps, and tell them to pick the website they made their account on from the dropdown. It’s not a huge deal but it is an extra step. If the goal is to reach out to the non tech savy though, the goal has to be to minimize the steps as much as we can.

    Then it goes on to say people are picking instances based on moderation politics etc… Lets face it regular people don’t… and they don’t care. Really like 2% of people actually hit points where moderation is a visible thing to them. usually because they are on the edge of a political side.





  • The gist is… streamers are gamer role models. The streamer itself is a drop in the bucket… but either they encourage people that like their behavior to play the game, or they encourage people who play the game to act like them.

    I used to play town of salem, the social deduction game… the community was relatively small, but when a mainstream youtube channel like pewdiepie or someoen played the game there’d be a collective groan from the community. As it would always follow up with a huge spike if players who start up the game with zero interest in learning how to play (because the youtuber also didn’t learn how to play)… now in those cases that generally was only a week or 2 of annoyance as the obnoxious players either moved on to the next thing, or started actually trying to learn the game instead of just trolling everyone.





  • That seems to be so common of a theme in theirs… Testing narcotics on animals to make predictions of how they impact humans is constantly being used as a chilling and watching animals take drugs". The idea that there’s solutions to drug use that might be more effective than throw drug users into private prisons to do slave labor seems quite lost on these people.




  • No it in fact is not. Selfishness causes any number of negative consequences - suffering, hostility, crime, conflict, rebellion, war, death… So it’s bludgeoningly obviously irrational, and therefore cannot be rational self interest.

    for 99% of people yes. but if you happen to be at the very top of the ladder and if things are broken enough you can be self interested into destroying the world. Fact is the guillotines aren’t being rolled out. The protests that happen are pretty consistently swatted with barely a weeks hindrance to the years between them. We all suffer the consiquences of the olligarchy, the ones making the laws and decisions are largely above those hardships.



  • I suppose it’s the deffinition of “credible” in “credible exit”. My understanding is, it’s a closed in system… that would allow people to export to another closed system built on the same protocol.

    The basically impossible part of a social network, is getting people onto the same network at the same time. It’s like a hangout place that’s open 24/7. Someone comes in, if nobody’s there, they themselves leave. 10 minutes later someone else comes, also see’s it empty and leaves. The hard part is getting enough people to stick around long enough to make interesting things to make others want to stay around.

    To me the only credible exit… is fediverse style. IE not just that you can leave and take your stuff… but more importantly you can still talk with the people who haven’t left yet. Because if we are just talking another walled in instance that you can make, that may as well be a new network.

    The thing holding people into twitter, isn’t they’d horribly miss their years of old tweets they’ve made and recieved. They’d miss their old contacts that haven’t joined the new network yet. Unless I’m massively misunderstanding the way this works… they aren’t opening the door for the new networks to be able to communicate with the old one.


  • I’d imagine just basic economics. Businesses exist to make money. Growing a tech company costs money. Which means someone’s gotta be pouring a lot of money into it to grow it. People with that kind of money, aren’t in the habit of giving money they don’t expect to have a return on investment.

    Being the best, getting users that don’t pay for the service… does not make money. Things people hate make money, Targeted ads, tracking/spying, or paid services you can direct users to make money. If a company has a semi-captive audience… that’s when they are pushed to enshittify.


  • I honestly don’t see the reason to hope for bluesky to win… I don’t get this “credible exit”. If bluesky choses to abandon it it might be feasible to make it into a decentralized network? Seems to me the decentralized future will have the same difficulties of getting people onto mastadon etc…

    and what if they don’t abandon it, but investors force it to be enshittified or it gets bought out by another billionare with horrible motives. It just seems to me like kicking the can down the road.





  • Never mind the fact that basically every big Linux distro plays nicely with secure boot these days, and has for a while now.

    In my experience nicely is still pretty relative. It still seems to be the most common area things go wrong on my installs and place I have the hardest time working around…

    and the bigger part, it’s a solution to a problem that I’ve never seen happen in the wild, and really can’t fathom happening on linux that doesn’t involve a very dumb user running software from an unknown source as root.