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Cake day: September 24th, 2020

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  • Depends on the anthropologist, era, and what culture/society they are talking about. Some societies don’t have strictly distinct relationships between family/extendedfamily/tribe, and some have vert strict hierarchies within extended families that create the traditional idea of ‘clans’.

    Early structuralists were very keen on creating the distinction between ‘kin-groups and tribes’, but it stopped being in vogue around the 1960’s. Still important work, but not considered as ‘essential to understanding the development of civilization from the Platonic model’.

    The issue is that it can get messy pretty quickly, because the whole idea of strictly genetic family relations comes mostly out of herding cultures, whereas other cultures, especially hunter-gatherers, had traditions like, “When you are with us, your name is Jon, who was my grandfather, which means you are my grandfather and that you have the obligation/privilege to take care of my family if something happens to me”. Which means that when the anthropologist comes around you call that dude “Jon, my grandfather” even though he is clearly the same age or even younger than you, and maybe married/sleeping with your daughter and the anthropologist has to care enough to figure out what is actually going on.



  • The first two seasons are fine, pretty cute even. However, the author is at a point now where they don’t want to make any of the shippers unhappy, so it is stuck in a perpetual ‘will they, won’t they’ holding pattern between the main guy and the two main girls (though I always shipped the main guy with another dude, if you know you know), at least when I stopped reading it about two or so year.

    Maybe it has changed? It was certainly a vibe at the time.

    Also you are wildly misreading the series imo if you think the main dude is a ‘door mat’. He is almost preternaturally good at the vibe check. It’s not ‘unreasonable’ to despise it, though, just a little too intense feeling to mostly forgettable media, outside of the art style, which is still great imo.



  • Look, I get you. I just think you are making the classic blunder of assuming people are literally born prone to being angry at the new neighbor.

    What I am saying is that they are not, it is an enculturated behavior, that is again, rewarded and enforced through your life in this society. All culture, including right-wing culture, is learned and shared behavior, it just seems ‘more natural’ because it is what is rewarded in this society, and most people’s are far more interested in material outcomes than anything else. That is why that person went back to believing in shit, a single day of conversation is not going to change years of learned and reinforced behavior. Otherwise talk therapists would literally be miracle workers. It takes conscious effort for some people in this society to be leftwing. Some people just are like that. Again, facts may be a shield, but they are a weak shield, they may provide solace and comfort, but they do not provide a way to power or effective negotiation with it.

    You can have facts, but obsession with facts shouldn’t define you, imo focusing instead on rewarding good social behavior around you, being open to communication and trustworthy is worth more than any single fact you can offer someone. We don’t fight anti-social behavior with facts, we fight it with demonstrating the real rewards, both mentally and emotionally, of pro-social behavior. I don’t know if this is revolutionary behavior, but I do think that, and patience helps a lot.


  • You are wildly over-estimating the role that things like ‘appeals to emotion’ have on the right. Most people I know who are on the left are on the left because of their emotional investment into concepts such as ‘justice’. The reason the right is in control is because the controllers of the means of production monetarily rewards right-wing (including right-wing liberal obviously) behaviors and ideology. The problem is fundamentally more complex than ‘fact-checking’, ‘ceding ground’ and ‘appeals to emotion’. Thinking that these ideological methods and arguments are the base or basis for revolution is part of the liberal ideology that we swim in on a regular basis. Not that I have a better solution at this point, mind, just that I know that these things very much do not matter in the long run.