I don’t like your tone Mr

:'( i can read

this is nuanced. in the UK after ww2 our army’s returned without housing, without long term health care which we did fight for and Britain had an NHS and housing within 5 years but we had to struggle to get it. now in current, we’ve slowly been selling our NHS, council housing isn’t built at the necessary speeds. our towns and cities as well as education are on the brink of bankruptcy. capitalists are far better at small incremental changes then we are.

where incremental action does work is strike action, anti war movements as they empower the working class to fight but we wont get the world we want without a revolution. speaking of cause a classless society.

do you know anyone with a serious gambling addiction? its hard to witness, total self destruction. most higher earners CEO’s have much higher risk tolerance which is what makes a gambler. beyond that, tests done on business students showed higher level of sociopath, and 1 in 3 high level corporate employees/inverter/CEO’s are psychopath. these aren’t normal people.

the conversation had mentioned the US, western powers and derailed to an extent from the original post.

sadly there are many stalinists and moaists. the Russian revolution ended when stallin took power.

calling something whataboutism is such a cop-out. what has the user said that distracts from the greater debate?

The world was deeply afraid of Marxism. When Russia experienced a workers-led revolution in 1917, Western powers were terrified of the spread of Marxist ideas and the potential threat they posed to the capitalist world order. In response, several Western states, along with their client states, sent their armies into Russia, aiming to overthrow the newly established worker-run government under the Bolsheviks. We attacked first, in an effort to suppress a system we feared.

This antagonism continued and evolved over the decades, culminating in the Cold War, where tensions between the Soviet Union and the West defined global politics. The Cuban Missile Crisis stands out as a key moment in this conflict. In fact, it was the United States that, in violation of international norms and against the Geneva Convention, installed nuclear launch sites along Russia’s borders in Turkey, heightening the threat and contributing to the Soviet response of placing missiles in Cuba.

Historically, it’s clear that we have been antagonistic towards Russia, driven by a fear of communism and a desire to maintain Western dominance. This pattern of confrontation has had long-lasting effects on the geopolitical landscape, contributing to the strained relations that persist today.

Dont take my word for this stuff, you can easily find information online, in text books.

sorry to interrupt but do you believe in climate change and if you do do you understand that since the Paris Agreement the oil companies have been pull more oil out of the ground? if each of these are yes’s then what is it your saying? chop of ones noise to spite ones face.

no they get a free pass /s

Like I said, we had the lowest voter turnout since 1918. We’ve been under a Conservative government for 17 years, and now we have a Labour government that’s sticking to the same austerity measures—removing rent caps on social housing, increasing utility prices. Essentially, nothing has changed, and in some ways, things are getting worse.

I’m not a liberal so there isn’t much rope for me to pull.

I want real change, so I organize with a socialist party. I’ve gone door-to-door with TUSC candidates in the run up to the general election, spoken at counter-demonstrations, shown up at pickets, and helped set up community outreach throughout my local area. Just last month, I attended an international meeting in Germany, so it’s not like I’m some ill-informed internet loony. I’m more than happy for people to vote how they like, and I wouldn’t discourage anyone from doing so, but I also won’t use vapid slogans like “not voting is a vote for Trump.”

seems as if the United States electoral system has become systematized where using ones democratic right to not vote or vote third party is now an attack. in the UK where i am based we had a push to spoil ballot papers, this was a democratic protest against an unchanging system which many see as failing them. this election spoke for itself with the lowest voter turn out since 1918. how have we gone the Orwellion rout of framing democracy in such an undemocratic way.
either way good luck in your election i hope the Democrats neither the orange man gets in.

So third party are okay?

many parties are active in this, the party i am a member of are having a push towards “fight bosses not migrants” we do need unity of the working class and calling working class people fascists will only push them deeper into their corners.
the other day i spoke to someone about politics, he complained of housing prices, stagnating wages then exclaimed “its socialism” bottom line: he isn’t a fascist but where he gets his information from is fascist.

if someone doesn’t agree with either party why should they vote? when someone refuses to vote for your party they are simple refusing, this does not mean they are voting for the other side. i really dislike this conflation people make.

here’s a fun thought experiment. democrats win this upcoming election, does this mean all the people who didn’t vote had actually voted democrats?

It is, it has a hero’s tail kinda vibe, terminator perhaps. Whereas the right tend to come off as SkyNet in their violence.

to come back to a serious point though, read History of The Russian Revolution and you will soon see the violence is a reaction to the class antagonism, these striking workers were peaceful till the police started shooting.

revolution i hear you say?

be civil please

Thanks will give these a look 🫠

I listened to both, revleft which is alright and well there your problem is hilarious, only listened to one episode that had adamsomething appearing.