• HopFlop
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    1 month ago

    It is against the law. That means that society, as a whole, has decided that this is immoral.

    No one forces you to stare at the girl

    So that means that its morally okay to kill everyone who looks at me (“No one forces then to look at me!”)?

    Why is your ethics enforceable, but other people’s aren’t?

    Because ethics are only enforcable through laws and the laws currently enforce “my” ethics in that regard.

    Why does she have less right to practice her ethical choice to expose her body (assuming by your answer you would have offense)?

    Whether that is morally right is an ethical question but would you say the same about a minor (exposing themselves)?

    Ethics is very subjective

    Exactly, so what is the issue with the company having moral concerns about it and shutting it down?

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      1 month ago

      Because seeing a nipple is on par with murder. Not to mention society makes all sorts of terrible shit ethical, like billionaires bribing politicians to subvert the will of the people. My point was ethics is a subjective defense at best. Especially when no harm is perpetrated on either party and nipples being required to be covered was not an ethical standard most of human history. Murder would cause harm to the murdered party. Nipple viewing would only harm a child because they have been taught that nipples are “supposed” to be hidden like a dirty secret. Even though all mammals suckle from them in early life. It’s absolutely silly to make a bare chest being exposed such a big “ethical” deal and people should be questioning this like I did. It only exists due to the puritanical religious idealism pushed on society. It has no basis in reality as a detriment to society.

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        1 month ago

        One question: Would you say the same about getting completely naked in public?