In Australia, it feels like the inverse. We generally have conservative governments until they do something particularly abhorrent and lose government for a term.
We’re presently enjoying our once-in-a-decade progressive government term and sadly I feel they have squandered their term. They seem determined to ignore the core responsibility of making life better for everyone and instead waste political capital on fanciful notions like banning sheep exports and frivolous changes to the constitution.
It’s not exactly accurate either. It’s not that Trudeau is “poison to the liberal brand”. American politics poisoned our politics. It’s true we vote out parties but this time the real shit is because of the poison pill of insane American politics.
Back in 2011 the “liberal brand” was that of being relegated to the 3rd place party because they lost the election so bad. Trudeau was plucked out to be party leader. Some say reluctantly because they had no one else to lead it. We will never know the true behind closed doors story.
The liberal brand or whatever was dog shit 20 years ago. Conservatives won the smallest minority government ever. Nobody wanted to vote for liberals. Nobody wanted to vote for conservatives. So the conservatives got about 10 years of government because of apathy.
Trudeau was actually doing fine in roughly the first half of his leadership. Rescued them no longer being one half of the defacto two party system. Economy was doing good. Poverty was going down. Restored the census which conservatives killed off. Removed conservative censorship of scientists. Actual climate change policies. Got legal weed. Actually addressed social issues. Unlike the previous conservative government who were stoking proto-MAGA type divisiveness.
Then the Trump era came into full swing and the conservative party adopted American culture wars. Then COVID and the economic+social fallout hit. So naturally all that is Trudeaus fault.
Whoever is the unfortunate next leader of the liberal party will also be “poison” to the liberal brand. Because that’s how Americanized culture war politics works. They will ad hominem the next person to death. Elections will have absolutely zero policy and 100% culture war personal attacks.
In another reality where America doesn’t go off the deep end Trudeau maybe even has few more years in office until getting voted out in a boring uneventful election where conservatives win another small minority. But no this is the insane timeline. Conservatives are headed to a resounding majority win because “MAGA” reasons.
It wasn’t so bad when we had Liberals and less neo-Liberals. We’ve also had Liberal governments that don’t fix as many of the Con failures of the past as they used to.
Also our medical is mostly provincial so as they flip Con we are losing more and more Universal healthcare. If you can believe it, we’re actually going towards more of the American model each election.
I hope your progressives turn it around a little, because it looks like young males all around the world are leaning fascist.
So there’s no one-study, one-link, etc, for this. North America has a rise in people joining (and creating) fascist groups - in addition if you look at any Conservative parties voters, they’re predominantly male. Here in Canada we have this problem
A lot of this is via Russia, see this fun set of numbers.
Also with the ‘Convoy’ which our incoming Conservative Prime Minister marched with.
Worldwide if you look at anywhere that is moving very openly towards fascism, (France, Germany, etc) you’ll find the voters of said parties trend male, and young. I haven’t saved any links, but someone here might have saved some.
If you don’t mind my postulating; the why is that men have been taught for ages now that they’re the top, they’re the default. Room temperature is what a (middle aged, white) man finds comfortable; drugs weren’t tested for women for quite some time; the main ‘character’ is media is statistically almost always male:
So then we add in that men are shown that they are more violent towards their partners than women are, and they see people of colour, or women, having programs that help them try to equal out numbers vs. their white/male counterparts, yet their lives were often set to fail by end-stage capitalisms myriad issues such as lack of affordable housing, worsening job conditions, and sociopathic CEO’s who will literally get people killed just to make line go up. Then they hear that they actually have it the easiest of all sets of people. So they are trying to match in their head how these two things can both be true; how are they suffering all this negativity and the best-off? They need something to talk about, how they are also discriminated against, so they find anything they can and use it as a wedge issue. Men commit suicide more? Must be because of women. And which ideology says that men are the be-all-, end-all, strongest and best? Fascism. Which promises easy answers to difficult problems? Fascism. Who lets you belong to the in-group, and punishes the out-group? Fascism. So for young men who are never shown other options, and the fact that youtube/social media literally guides young men towards these things (because it causes engagement to go up, you see), means they are more likely to ascribe to them. Socialism requires sacrifice and working as a team, something men have been taught to avoid; it’s all about being the rugged individual, the maverick, the solo whatever (at least in my experience and understanding of recent history).
To sum, fascism offers easy answers and the ability to be the in-crowd, while giving you an enemy that is both weak (and thus beatable), but strong (so you don’t look like a pussy.)
Yeah, the medical industry in Australia is probably similar, sliding away from universal health care.
I mean it’s nothing like the US but I do feel that we’re headed in the wrong direction.
10 years ago it wasn’t hard to find a GP that wouldn’t charge you anything on top of the government rebate. Now the rebate is usually about half what the GP is charging.
That said, myself and those in my care have spent a lot of time in hospital over the last few years and we haven’t paid a cent for any of that. My partner gave birth to Twins, it was a “complex pregnancy”, all fit and well in the end but we spent 3 months in another city to be near a specialist hospital. Govt paid for a nice apartment for us for the whole time, absolutely gold standard care from the miracle workers at that hospital, just amazing honestly.
That said, myself and those in my care have spent a lot of time in hospital over the last few years and we haven’t paid a cent for any of that. My partner gave birth to Twins, it was a “complex pregnancy”, all fit and well in the end but we spent 3 months in another city to be near a specialist hospital. Govt paid for a nice apartment for us for the whole time, absolutely gold standard care from the miracle workers at that hospital, just amazing honestly.
That sounds absolutely incredible, absolutely fight with every breath you have to keep that. The right-wing is coming for it, and I’m worried too many of us are complacent and refuse to stand up to it. Good luck, and Love from Canada.
That’s intentional. And it’s precisely so Harper couldn’t fuck it up when he wasn’t signing away our rights to our own land. His people can only fuck over a province at a time while we can potentially show off better outcomes from places he hasn’t wrecked yet.
That’s intentional. And it’s precisely so Harper couldn’t fuck it up when he wasn’t signing away our rights to our own land. His people can only fuck over a province at a time while we can potentially show off better outcomes from places he hasn’t wrecked yet.
The issue is people (particularly men) are falling for it, and once PP is our PM you can bet we’re going to get more of it. People aren’t seeing the worsening of it and changing their minds – Alberta voted the UCP in again after Smith had already been in charge. The BC NDP nearly lost to John Rustad. I’d love it if these bad examples worked, but they don’t seem to be.
This doesn’t sound terrible?
In Australia, it feels like the inverse. We generally have conservative governments until they do something particularly abhorrent and lose government for a term.
We’re presently enjoying our once-in-a-decade progressive government term and sadly I feel they have squandered their term. They seem determined to ignore the core responsibility of making life better for everyone and instead waste political capital on fanciful notions like banning sheep exports and frivolous changes to the constitution.
It’s not exactly accurate either. It’s not that Trudeau is “poison to the liberal brand”. American politics poisoned our politics. It’s true we vote out parties but this time the real shit is because of the poison pill of insane American politics.
Back in 2011 the “liberal brand” was that of being relegated to the 3rd place party because they lost the election so bad. Trudeau was plucked out to be party leader. Some say reluctantly because they had no one else to lead it. We will never know the true behind closed doors story.
The liberal brand or whatever was dog shit 20 years ago. Conservatives won the smallest minority government ever. Nobody wanted to vote for liberals. Nobody wanted to vote for conservatives. So the conservatives got about 10 years of government because of apathy.
Trudeau was actually doing fine in roughly the first half of his leadership. Rescued them no longer being one half of the defacto two party system. Economy was doing good. Poverty was going down. Restored the census which conservatives killed off. Removed conservative censorship of scientists. Actual climate change policies. Got legal weed. Actually addressed social issues. Unlike the previous conservative government who were stoking proto-MAGA type divisiveness.
Then the Trump era came into full swing and the conservative party adopted American culture wars. Then COVID and the economic+social fallout hit. So naturally all that is Trudeaus fault.
Whoever is the unfortunate next leader of the liberal party will also be “poison” to the liberal brand. Because that’s how Americanized culture war politics works. They will ad hominem the next person to death. Elections will have absolutely zero policy and 100% culture war personal attacks.
In another reality where America doesn’t go off the deep end Trudeau maybe even has few more years in office until getting voted out in a boring uneventful election where conservatives win another small minority. But no this is the insane timeline. Conservatives are headed to a resounding majority win because “MAGA” reasons.
It wasn’t so bad when we had Liberals and less neo-Liberals. We’ve also had Liberal governments that don’t fix as many of the Con failures of the past as they used to.
Also our medical is mostly provincial so as they flip Con we are losing more and more Universal healthcare. If you can believe it, we’re actually going towards more of the American model each election.
I hope your progressives turn it around a little, because it looks like young males all around the world are leaning fascist.
Any reliable source/study on the global male fascist thing? I see it repeated a lot and would love details on how true it might be and why
So there’s no one-study, one-link, etc, for this. North America has a rise in people joining (and creating) fascist groups - in addition if you look at any Conservative parties voters, they’re predominantly male. Here in Canada we have this problem
A lot of this is via Russia, see this fun set of numbers.
Also with the ‘Convoy’ which our incoming Conservative Prime Minister marched with.
Worldwide if you look at anywhere that is moving very openly towards fascism, (France, Germany, etc) you’ll find the voters of said parties trend male, and young. I haven’t saved any links, but someone here might have saved some.
If you don’t mind my postulating; the why is that men have been taught for ages now that they’re the top, they’re the default. Room temperature is what a (middle aged, white) man finds comfortable; drugs weren’t tested for women for quite some time; the main ‘character’ is media is statistically almost always male:
So then we add in that men are shown that they are more violent towards their partners than women are, and they see people of colour, or women, having programs that help them try to equal out numbers vs. their white/male counterparts, yet their lives were often set to fail by end-stage capitalisms myriad issues such as lack of affordable housing, worsening job conditions, and sociopathic CEO’s who will literally get people killed just to make line go up. Then they hear that they actually have it the easiest of all sets of people. So they are trying to match in their head how these two things can both be true; how are they suffering all this negativity and the best-off? They need something to talk about, how they are also discriminated against, so they find anything they can and use it as a wedge issue. Men commit suicide more? Must be because of women. And which ideology says that men are the be-all-, end-all, strongest and best? Fascism. Which promises easy answers to difficult problems? Fascism. Who lets you belong to the in-group, and punishes the out-group? Fascism. So for young men who are never shown other options, and the fact that youtube/social media literally guides young men towards these things (because it causes engagement to go up, you see), means they are more likely to ascribe to them. Socialism requires sacrifice and working as a team, something men have been taught to avoid; it’s all about being the rugged individual, the maverick, the solo whatever (at least in my experience and understanding of recent history).
To sum, fascism offers easy answers and the ability to be the in-crowd, while giving you an enemy that is both weak (and thus beatable), but strong (so you don’t look like a pussy.)
Yeah, the medical industry in Australia is probably similar, sliding away from universal health care.
I mean it’s nothing like the US but I do feel that we’re headed in the wrong direction.
10 years ago it wasn’t hard to find a GP that wouldn’t charge you anything on top of the government rebate. Now the rebate is usually about half what the GP is charging.
That said, myself and those in my care have spent a lot of time in hospital over the last few years and we haven’t paid a cent for any of that. My partner gave birth to Twins, it was a “complex pregnancy”, all fit and well in the end but we spent 3 months in another city to be near a specialist hospital. Govt paid for a nice apartment for us for the whole time, absolutely gold standard care from the miracle workers at that hospital, just amazing honestly.
That sounds absolutely incredible, absolutely fight with every breath you have to keep that. The right-wing is coming for it, and I’m worried too many of us are complacent and refuse to stand up to it. Good luck, and Love from Canada.
That’s intentional. And it’s precisely so Harper couldn’t fuck it up when he wasn’t signing away our rights to our own land. His people can only fuck over a province at a time while we can potentially show off better outcomes from places he hasn’t wrecked yet.
The issue is people (particularly men) are falling for it, and once PP is our PM you can bet we’re going to get more of it. People aren’t seeing the worsening of it and changing their minds – Alberta voted the UCP in again after Smith had already been in charge. The BC NDP nearly lost to John Rustad. I’d love it if these bad examples worked, but they don’t seem to be.