• Nalivai
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    3 days ago

    One agent in a crowd of unarmed people will not cause that effect. But if everyone is on edge and carrying a gun, then yes, one will be enough to cause full blown massacre.

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      3 days ago

      One agent in a crowd of unarmed people will not cause that effect.

      It will if police are present and are looking for an excuse to violently quash protest.

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        3 days ago

        I just want you to recognise the difference between “police mows down a crowd of unarmed protesters” and “police crushed armed insurrection in an intense shootout”.

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          It just takes one provocateur to make that difference. The number of actual firearms at the protest doesn’t matter as long as there’s one, which the provocateur can bring.

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            No, it’s demonstrably not true. Or do you think nobody ever does protest around the world and we can’t study this shit?
            Hell, there was the exact same situation in Ukraine in 2014, it’s one of the best documented revolutions of the current era. Putin’s cronies tried to do provocaterur shit, and shot back, and there was so much backlash to it from everywhere, this ultimately brought them defeat.
            I once again want you to recognise the difference between “police mows down a crowd of unarmed protesters” and “police crushed armed insurrection in an intense shootout”, but this time I want you to do it for real, not just knee-jerking canned response.

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              11 hours ago

              I once again want you to recognise the difference between “police mows down a crowd of unarmed protesters” and “police crushed armed insurrection in an intense shootout”, but this time I want you to do it for real, not just knee-jerking canned response.

              When the police call the latter the former, you will believe them.

              There’s a difference in reality, yes. But in most of the US, whatever the pigs say is believed immediately and without question.

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                8 hours ago

                Are you aware of the existence of a videocamera? It’s a cool new thing on the block

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                  5 hours ago

                  And they make no difference. People see what they already want to see, even in the face of video evidence. Have you not heard “Yeah, but what happened before the cameras were rolling” or “he was clearly reaching for the cop’s gun/his waistband” or “just comply and this won’t happen!”? Because if you haven’t, you should ask yourself whose side you’ve been taking in discussions regarding police misconduct.