it’s not hard to imagine that someone could believe there’s a moral binary, that they and their favorite country are on the positive site of that binary and that due to various reasons the way to handle those on the negative site of the binary has to be strict or oppressive or repressive or violent, for example because something something material conditions mean capitalists will always work against you, or something something the contradiction between our people and an autonomous region cannot be solved with peaceful and harmonious measures
or if you seek revolution then obviously that is going to get violent, and because your revolution cannot be compromised you must use the strongest force and control to keep the revolution from being hijacked from the inside and turned against itself. your revolutionary purpose hasn’t been achieved yet, obviously you can’t loosen things just yet. in fact who knows who’s going to turn against you any day now, maybe you should be even harsher.
western marxism does place a lot of emphasis on democratizing everything, but I just think it’s not that hard to imagine that someone might have a bit of an authoritarian streak, even if they want the best for everyone. in fact wanting the best for everyone can probably justify a lot of ugly (“necessary”) ideas. also with the way the west treats socialist, communist and marxist leaders it’s not that difficult to fall into almost a left fascism, certainly a cult of personality. marxists are made into these highly alien beings, and maybe you like aliens. plus, marxist leaders were charismatic philosophers, and those are sometimes likeable traits.
(sorry about the first sentence and the insinuation that other regions might see marxism differently. it’s a knee jerk reaction to the recent citizen lab news about china’s persecution of uyghur muslims and my inability to reconcile the supposed “people-centred development” and democracy of china with this and other very real atrocities, even if I must admit that technically uyghurs are the most likely to commit terrorism in china. but also I think terrorism is mostly just very desperate political expression. I don’t know much at all about uyghurs, or tibet, or taiwan, but china’s handling of those cases does not make me optimistic about socialism with chinese characteristics, even if everything else I’ve heard sounds great.)
it’s not hard to imagine that someone could believe there’s a moral binary, that they and their favorite country are on the positive site of that binary and that due to various reasons the way to handle those on the negative site of the binary has to be strict or oppressive or repressive or violent, for example because something something material conditions mean capitalists will always work against you, or something something the contradiction between our people and an autonomous region cannot be solved with peaceful and harmonious measures
or if you seek revolution then obviously that is going to get violent, and because your revolution cannot be compromised you must use the strongest force and control to keep the revolution from being hijacked from the inside and turned against itself. your revolutionary purpose hasn’t been achieved yet, obviously you can’t loosen things just yet. in fact who knows who’s going to turn against you any day now, maybe you should be even harsher.
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western marxism does place a lot of emphasis on democratizing everything, but I just think it’s not that hard to imagine that someone might have a bit of an authoritarian streak, even if they want the best for everyone. in fact wanting the best for everyone can probably justify a lot of ugly (“necessary”) ideas. also with the way the west treats socialist, communist and marxist leaders it’s not that difficult to fall into almost a left fascism, certainly a cult of personality. marxists are made into these highly alien beings, and maybe you like aliens. plus, marxist leaders were charismatic philosophers, and those are sometimes likeable traits.
(sorry about the first sentence and the insinuation that other regions might see marxism differently. it’s a knee jerk reaction to the recent citizen lab news about china’s persecution of uyghur muslims and my inability to reconcile the supposed “people-centred development” and democracy of china with this and other very real atrocities, even if I must admit that technically uyghurs are the most likely to commit terrorism in china. but also I think terrorism is mostly just very desperate political expression. I don’t know much at all about uyghurs, or tibet, or taiwan, but china’s handling of those cases does not make me optimistic about socialism with chinese characteristics, even if everything else I’ve heard sounds great.)