No idea why you are getting down voted. Zero knowledge verification for age would be great. You could also do zero knowledge verification for being a real person to distinguish people from bots.
Because the underlying concept is so terrible and guaranteed to have bad results as it is inherently ‘think of the children’ bullshit. The entire premise is flawed.
Are you saying that the underlying concept of zero knowledge ID verification is terrible? If so, how do you mean?
There are multiple published ways to do so cryptographically, some of which have been mathematically proven to work, so conceptually the idea is sound. There are also other potential uses for it beyond just making sure kids don’t watch porn, so even if you disagree with that type of censorship, as many here do, the concept of it is not terrible itself.
Is there maybe something else I didn’t think of that you feel makes it terrible?
No, I am saying the underlying concept that people should be expected or required to prove their age or who they are on the internet for access is bullshit. How that is proven doesn’t matter, because it will always escalate and any credentials can just be used by someone else anyway.
For example, how would any kind of proof work on a computer without a camera or other means of identifying who is using it at a point in time? I have zero plans to ever add a camera to my desktop PC. If I have to go through hoops like I did to get a stupid IRS account that ended up with a fucking video call on my phone to prove it was me creating the account anywhere else I won’t bother. If they want me to use that ID to do things, then anything I can do is easily tracked.
Self identification for all internet activity is the wet dream of tech bros, and fascists, and other authoritarians. I would much rather kids stumble across porn because they clicked ‘yes I am an adult’ than give more power to the pedos running the system.
No idea why you are getting down voted. Zero knowledge verification for age would be great. You could also do zero knowledge verification for being a real person to distinguish people from bots.
Because the underlying concept is so terrible and guaranteed to have bad results as it is inherently ‘think of the children’ bullshit. The entire premise is flawed.
Are you saying that the underlying concept of zero knowledge ID verification is terrible? If so, how do you mean?
There are multiple published ways to do so cryptographically, some of which have been mathematically proven to work, so conceptually the idea is sound. There are also other potential uses for it beyond just making sure kids don’t watch porn, so even if you disagree with that type of censorship, as many here do, the concept of it is not terrible itself.
Is there maybe something else I didn’t think of that you feel makes it terrible?
No, I am saying the underlying concept that people should be expected or required to prove their age or who they are on the internet for access is bullshit. How that is proven doesn’t matter, because it will always escalate and any credentials can just be used by someone else anyway.
For example, how would any kind of proof work on a computer without a camera or other means of identifying who is using it at a point in time? I have zero plans to ever add a camera to my desktop PC. If I have to go through hoops like I did to get a stupid IRS account that ended up with a fucking video call on my phone to prove it was me creating the account anywhere else I won’t bother. If they want me to use that ID to do things, then anything I can do is easily tracked.
Self identification for all internet activity is the wet dream of tech bros, and fascists, and other authoritarians. I would much rather kids stumble across porn because they clicked ‘yes I am an adult’ than give more power to the pedos running the system.