• @ohitsbreadley
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    What the fuck mate.

    Trump literally just said “time to finish the problem” regarding the Israeli bombardment of Gaza.

    I know it’s a shit choice, but it’s the choice between the status quo of global imperialism, or global imperialism AND domestic fascism.

    I don’t want either of these things, but I really don’t want to get executed at home.

    • @Thief_of_Crows@lemmy.ml
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      Okay but we all know we can’t believe anything trump says, especially anything he only says once. He didn’t even build the wall last time, and he said that thousands of times. What he did do is get us out of Afghanistan. So yes, he MIGHT keep doing the genocide, but Biden definitely will. Trump is the only president in 50 years (maybe 100 or 150?) to not start a new war. So if we’re going off what he each man actually DID, trump is the obvious choice, because he didn’t do a genocide and did end a war.

      • @ohitsbreadley
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        Trump said he’d make the courts partisan and he did exactly that. Now we have some of the most extreme right wing federal courts, and an extremist christofascist supreme court.

        Alabama declared that IVF embryos are children. A federal court is arguing that FDA overstepped in approval of mifeprostone, an abortifacient and uterotonic medication that is considered essential to first world medical care. Roe v. Wade overturned. Gay marriage on the docket. Interracial marriage in their sights.

        Do you really want to have Gilead at home?

        • @Thief_of_Crows@lemmy.ml
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          Okay, so nominate a guy who isn’t genocidal. Leftists arent going to vote for a genocider, so give us somebody we can vote for. If I knew for a fact Trump would overturn roe v wade, and also attempt another coup, id still vote for him, because he didn’t do a genocide. Like I’ve said, I’ll take J6 part 2 over trail of tears part 2 every time.

          We are NOT asking that much. Literally all we want is a guy who hasn’t already committed a genocide. If y’all can’t give that to us, it is not OUR fault when roe v wade gets overturned, it’s yours. You didn’t give us a choice in the matter. Waving off genocide warning signs is exactly how Germany got Hitler, and if the American voter does NOTHING else, the least we can possibly do for the world is not have a second Holocaust.

          I don’t care how it happens, but I think I speak for all true leftists when I say we will never vote for a genocider, period. I agree with you that trump is awful, but the Democrats have made him the only valid choice, and so I will be voting for the only candidate that good people are allowed to vote for. If Dems actually want to defeat Trump, they’ll put up someone else. Personally I don’t actually think they give a shit, cause the spice must flow.

          I’m not even saying they have to oppose the genocide. Just stop funding it. Stop making me directly complicit.

          We all said never again, and some of us meant it.

          • @ohitsbreadley
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            162 months ago

            You don’t speak for all leftists.

            Signed, a leftist.

            • @Thief_of_Crows@lemmy.ml
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              No, I said all TRUE leftists. No true leftist would vote for a genocider, and that’s not debatable. I think Lenin actually said as much in his book on imperialism, where he outlines how capital is going to react to WW2 40 years ahead of time (he explains that they will flock to the fascists due to their shared interests)

              You’re clearly just a typical lib that doesn’t understand politics. Read some news that isn’t fake or STFU.

              • @NotAtWork@startrek.website
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                92 months ago

                You are the One True Leftist, your head is burred in theory, you discount the possible unintended repercussions of your positions, and as a result you bring a dictator in to power that kills millions.

                Or you are a troll.

                • @Thief_of_Crows@lemmy.ml
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                  -92 months ago

                  By not voting for genocide, I will cause genocide. Incredible logic.

                  There are plenty of true leftists, we are bigger than you seem to think. We just don’t include people who are genocide apologists. You can’t vote for genociders and be a leftist. It’s really not a high bar.

      • Bo7a
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        162 months ago

        Leftist my fuckin ass. Go away liar.

        • @Thief_of_Crows@lemmy.ml
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          -102 months ago

          No wait, you have to call me a Russian troll first, or else you haven’t finished deflecting an argument you’ve already lost. Do you even know the first thing about being a lib online?

          • Bo7a
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            52 months ago

            You may want to brush up on some reading comprehension. I didn’t offer an argument. I just pointed out that you are a liar.