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    Maybe if the dems never win the Republicans won’t have anyone else to blame anymore and they would lose popularity and we could get over them I’m twenty years instead of them gaining steam. Maybe. But climate change is gonna wreck havoc before we try anything other than weak resistance.

    Also funny enough my username is yours backwards. Lol

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      if the dems never win the Republicans won’t have anyone else to blame anymore

      I think you severely underestimate their ability to find scapegoats.

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          So your solution to the Dems occasionally enabling the Reps’ evil is to put the Reps in power so that they can enact their evil freely with no opposition at all? Sorry, but I’m not convinced by that logic.

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            You remind me of myself when I was younger. And I hope you are right.

            It’s not my job to hold Republicans to task. It’s republican voters that do that. It’s republican voters that you need to reach. And it is republican voters that you need to convince that this system isn’t working. At least with a real leftist party all of the “the LEFT!” Discourse won’t be about democrats anymore.

            Oh also good luck holding democrats to anything after voting for them.

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              It’s not my job to hold Republicans to task. It’s republican voters that do that.

              Oh also good luck holding democrats to anything after voting for them.

              And you think Republicans are going to have any more success with their representatives? It is your job to hold Republicans to task, by voting someone else in. And there’s only one other party that has any chance of success at that.

              At least with a real leftist party all of the “the LEFT!” Discourse won’t be about democrats anymore.

              It’s already not really about them. The Dems do only a fraction of what the conservatives accuse them of. The whining about “the left” is going to be based on a persecution fetish fantasy completely divorced from reality regardless of whether the left in America is the Dems and/or some other party.

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                And some people vote for Republicans only for a single issue, mostly guns. There suddenly being a pro gun, socially left party as an option would do more damage to the republican base than having another four years of Joe Biden. Honestly at this point I think we start a grass roots effort to elect Queen Latifah without her campaigning.

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                  Only about 30% of Americans own a gun, and only a fraction of those are single-issue Republican voters. Establishing such a left-wing party might put a dent in the Republican base, but it would sunder the Democratic one and ensure unopposed Republican rule likely in perpetuity (they’d just seize power; already they’re barely managing to keep the mask of democracy from falling off).

                  The whole gun issue is a total distraction that does nothing other than galvanize the Rep base. The Dems should just avoid stirring the hornet’s nest and ignore it altogether.

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                    I don’t think you are putting the right context on that 30% own a gun (and around half that don’t could see themselves owning one in the future).

                    In 2020 American’s came out to vote in larger numbers than has been seen in over 100 years and still only 2/3rds of people voted. So of that 66.6 percent about 51% voted for Biden. So that means about 33.79% of Americans voted for the democrat presidential candidate… in the largest turn out in modern history.

                    The NRA sways a lot of people with threats that the democrats want to “take their guns” but Republicans don’t hear that as a funny eye roll phrase. They 1000% think electing a Democrat is electing someone who will send the army to search their house and steal their property. They fully believe that is months from happening at all times.