Dude, I get your frustration, but you should really consider the difference between a scam and an unjust product made to vacuum cash out of gullible people.
A scam is them promising a product, gathering cash for it, and then fucking off into nirvana with nothing but the website left. That’d be a scam.
Them delivering a shitty half-arsed game with even more shitty overpriced in-game assets is no scam at all. It sucks, it’s shit, it should be punished by public flogging, but it ain’t. They did nothing illegal.
If you order a “mystery pizza” and you’ll receive a cold pizza with no ingredients, is that a scam? Nope. It’s on you. Does it suck? YES. Is it unfair? YES! Should it be punished? YES. But is it a scam? NO.
If we agree that these people should be punished, why are we arguing about the terminology? Terminology doesn’t mean anything. I’m happy to admit that, by your definition, this specific evil shit is not a “scam.” That’s absolutely fine with me.
The important thing is how THESE PIECES OF SHIT SHOULD BE LOCKED UP FOR WHAT THEY’VE DONE.
As long as you agree with that statement, we’re cool.
It’s not MY definition of scam. It’s the definition of scam.
Starfield is none. It’s just like a modern-day snake-oil-merchant. If you believe all the merchant-talk how great it MIGHT be (here’s the big difference to a scam where you have been betrayed by your partner OR your own judgment), it’s just on you.
By buying into starfield, there was nowhere a contractual binding to a timewindow in which a product of a certain quality was promised. Only what they hope to achieve.
So, yes, terminology matters much. You can’t just say something is green while it’s actually red, and expect to be taken serious. No offense meant!
And yes, this kind of early-access should be governed by strict rules. Like a money-back-policy in percentage to the delivered content that was promised. But it isn’t, so it’s up to us not to buy into it, or just see it as wasted money with a slight chance something great might come out.
…do you think we’re talking about Starfield, made by Bethesda Softworks? The game that released last year, to mixed reviews and polarized opinions?
THAT’S NOT WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT. Starfield also has spaceships, but you can’t fucking buy them with real-world money. We’re talking about STAR CITIZEN. It’s a completely different thing.
Please tell me you’re just typing the wrong name. Please tell me you don’t actually think we’re talking about Starfield.
Dude, I get your frustration, but you should really consider the difference between a scam and an unjust product made to vacuum cash out of gullible people.
A scam is them promising a product, gathering cash for it, and then fucking off into nirvana with nothing but the website left. That’d be a scam. Them delivering a shitty half-arsed game with even more shitty overpriced in-game assets is no scam at all. It sucks, it’s shit, it should be punished by public flogging, but it ain’t. They did nothing illegal.
If you order a “mystery pizza” and you’ll receive a cold pizza with no ingredients, is that a scam? Nope. It’s on you. Does it suck? YES. Is it unfair? YES! Should it be punished? YES. But is it a scam? NO.
If we agree that these people should be punished, why are we arguing about the terminology? Terminology doesn’t mean anything. I’m happy to admit that, by your definition, this specific evil shit is not a “scam.” That’s absolutely fine with me.
The important thing is how THESE PIECES OF SHIT SHOULD BE LOCKED UP FOR WHAT THEY’VE DONE.
As long as you agree with that statement, we’re cool.
Why are you so emotionally invested?
It’s not MY definition of scam. It’s the definition of scam.
Starfield is none. It’s just like a modern-day snake-oil-merchant. If you believe all the merchant-talk how great it MIGHT be (here’s the big difference to a scam where you have been betrayed by your partner OR your own judgment), it’s just on you.
By buying into starfield, there was nowhere a contractual binding to a timewindow in which a product of a certain quality was promised. Only what they hope to achieve.
So, yes, terminology matters much. You can’t just say something is green while it’s actually red, and expect to be taken serious. No offense meant!
And yes, this kind of early-access should be governed by strict rules. Like a money-back-policy in percentage to the delivered content that was promised. But it isn’t, so it’s up to us not to buy into it, or just see it as wasted money with a slight chance something great might come out.
…do you think we’re talking about Starfield, made by Bethesda Softworks? The game that released last year, to mixed reviews and polarized opinions?
THAT’S NOT WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT. Starfield also has spaceships, but you can’t fucking buy them with real-world money. We’re talking about STAR CITIZEN. It’s a completely different thing.
Please tell me you’re just typing the wrong name. Please tell me you don’t actually think we’re talking about Starfield.
lol, no, wrong name. Just had hefty rl-discussions about effing starfield, hence the confusion… :) Yeah, star CITIZEN i was talking about.