• merthyr1831@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Pretty old footage (like a week+ old) but (that was a different sinking oops)

    what strikes me as surprising is that there’s pretty much zero CIWS or other anti-drone weaponry on the ship. You see a few splashes ahead of the drones but nothing indicating sophisticated, or rapid-fire weapons that could’ve actually hit these drones easily.

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      10 months ago

      there was another ship sunk two weeks ago, Tarantul-class Ivanovets. in both cases the same type of drone was used and in both cases the uploaded video was IR so it looks similar. just because you can’t keep up with black sea fleet losses doesn’t mean these aren’t real

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        10 months ago

        Didn’t say it wasn’t real, just that I saw similar footage a few weeks back and thought this was just a late announcement (Sometimes they don’t officially sink for a while).

        My surprise is more that these drone attacks are so effective when modern warships are meant to be able to defeat cruise missiles, but the equivalent of a kamikaze speedboat is able to surpass it lmao

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          10 months ago

          Lots of thing are supposed to be but aren’t. Moskva had CIWS but sank with its targeting radar in transit position ie it was never engaged

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      10 months ago

      at this point, i wouldn’t be surprised rusty SKSs and mosins are the CIWs.

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      10 months ago

      Well, you have to calculate how much water and frozen mud the Kuznetsov has inside him. How floaty is “floating”?

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        10 months ago

        you might be not far off

        update 2: if my math is correct, and it’s probably a bit off, then ignoring the grayed out ships and counting destroyed + damaged it’s somewhere in the ballpark of 35%

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          10 months ago

          Thanks for the chart. That’s not many options, when you count the ships that are in maintenance/refitting cycle after an “accident”, or even scheduled maintenance. EDIT: changed “even if you disregard” to “when you count”.

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            10 months ago

            Askold is listed as “damaged” for example, i guess technically it is