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Biden’s gotten a lot of criticism over how we’re handling Isreal/Palestine, but don’t conflate criticism with unwillingness to vote.
I do NOT like that we’re fueling a fucking genocide; but I’m also aware our options are Biden or Trump. Not voting or choosing 3rd party is still choosing Biden or Trump, but you give up any weight your vote carries to let the other voters decide between Biden or Trump.
And Trump running the show will only crank the genocide up to 11, and not just on Gaza - Ukraine is also on the ballot with that decision, as is Taiwan if we’re taking the writing on the wall at face value. And that’s ignoring the myriad of non-genocide reasons that stack up to making a 2nd Trump presidency our top priority to fight against.
So, I’ll be voting Biden. I’ll bitch about him, but we’re still on the same team.
Yup. THIS.
And he’ll continue doing exactly what he is doing now if he gets elected. But I guess genocide isn’t “the single issue” for people in the US, 3rd party won’t win, said 150 million people in the biggest joke of a democracy in the world.
And he’ll continue doing exactly what he is doing now if he gets elected.
Which is the best case scenario when the options are that or Trump. And those are the only two options.
I feel your frustration, but choosing ‘worse’ because you’re unhappy with ‘bad’ isn’t the right move.
If you want actual good options, support shit like ranked choice and other changes to the poltical system itself; but for here and now, if you enjoy having rights and want to reduce as much as possible the number of our international neighbors being killed, then Biden is your guy… even if he’s a piece of shit sometimes.
the biggest joke of a democracy in the world
You’re saying that like people reluctantly voting for Biden don’t already know it
There are, sadly, bigger fish to fry. Most people, while finding the genocide in Gaza repugnant, aren’t actually affected by it.
Ah yes. Murdering civillians in the thousands and having the way to stop it, but choosing not to, is a “small fish to fry”. Their lives are worthless after all, huh?
Hol up though, how is not voting for Biden resolving the Israel-Palestine conflict? Are you saying Trump would somehow not be worse in this regard? Or are you saying theres actually a snowflakes chance in hell for a 3rd party to take the lead?
I just see a Biden 2024 sign.
I don’t entirely understand what this meme means but I like the way it makes me feel.
Largely because this conflict with Biden is unnecessary. Asking Biden to be less condoning of genocide isn’t a huge ask for an election year. But the resistance to this is causing collateral damage–as expected.
First: Even his supporters and voters start to feel shame. This hurts the Democratic Party electorally.
Second: Every person running for office as a Democrat now has to contend with a divisive issue. Every challenger has a free talking point and wedge issue.
Remove Trump from the equation–just for the perspective, imagine he is in jail, disqualified, or dead or whatever. So say Trump croaks right now: it is very clear Biden’s policy towards Israel is objectively damaging as an electoral strategy for him and his party.
So why should I vote for my Democratic representative who is staunchly backing Biden and Israel? I got a Senate race too this year. These are unnecessary questions and concerns to have in the air when majorities are so slim and fragile. Those races primaries are in August, and I don’t know what will be left of this issue, or Gaza, by then.
Right choice? I dont think you have a “right” choice. Your country is fucked and headed towards an eventual civil war. The only question at this point is how long it takes to get started.
A two party system… lol. America doomed itself.
It will be accelerated if Trump wins. We need to get away from this idea that “if only some valiant and noble person who isn’t connected to the military industrial complex and the oil industry ran for president!”. It’s not gonna happen.
We get it, you’re so rational for loving a pro-genocide candidate.
“I can’t have zero genocide so I’ll vote for more genocide” is an equally stupid take.
I didn’t say I was voting for trump. Speaking of stupid…
Only 2 parties homie.
Holy shit, I never knew this. Thanks for the insight!!!
In a first past the post voting system, you don’t vote for anyone. You vote AGAINST the candidate you hate most. This also means that if you don’t vote for Biden it’s effectively a vote for Trump.
This explains it better than I can. And it’s short.
I didn’t say I wasn’t voting for biden. We’re all familiar with the system. There is a least bad choice, but there are no sane choices in an insane system and I take issue with the framing that only the enlightened liberal is sane for picking a pro-genocide candidate who also serves billionaires first and foremost, and who benefits from and wishes to continue this insane first past the post voting system.
So you’re voting Biden because you see it as the rational option given irrational circumstances.
No, I’m voting biden because he’s the least bad choice. He’s still a shitty choice and one I would only make in an insane system.
So you think that you’re doing something irrational?
To be honest, I’ve never met an irrational person who knew they were irrational. This is a new one for me. Usually people making irrational decisions don’t realize the flaws in their logic, and think they’re being rational.
So if you know you’re being irrational, where is the flaw in your logic? And why don’t you fix it?
Sounds like, by your own logic, you love the pro-genocide candidate because you understand how FPTP works. Your original comment is doubly irrelevant now.
Your talking point is like 2 months old and irrelevant. Trump supports genocide more.
Genocide is old news, huh? Genocide is still genocide and biden full-throatedly supports it.
No he fucking doesn’t, there’s been about as much coming out of the whitehouse about humanitarian support and ceasefires recently as there has been talk of supporting Israel.
Shit, he supports a two state solution, that’s pretty weird for someone who supposedly wants to genocide all Palestinians.
There’s been a lot of talk coming out of the whitehouse, but talk is cheap. He has said he supports a two state solution while he hands over billions to israel in support of their ethnostate “solution”. Really strange that you think biden providing billions in weapons to israel to carry out this genocide is somehow balanced by a dinky pier that will provide insufficient aid at best (and starting weeks from now) until it is inevitably “accidentally” bombed by israel.
