AI can be disabled or removed from the installation file.
Bloatware can be uninstalled manually/Winget/Chris Titus Tech Tools etc (You won’t have all these if you install English International)
I never get Ads on Windows
An OEM Licence is dirt cheap, and you don’t even need it
Tracking can be disabled
Define customizability?
Less stable? Compared to what? I have never encountered Windows nor an Ubuntu crash unless there is some bad hardware like Memory instabilities). But I’ve had more driver crashes with Linux in modern systems (Both AMD and NVIDIA).
AI can be disabled or removed from the installation file. Bloatware can be uninstalled manually/Winget/Chris Titus Tech Tools etc
Ah, great. So we reached an era where a proper installation is more work with Windows than Linux. Don’t have to disable/uninstall anything on the latter (except maybe some shitty distros).
… I had never thought about it this way. You’re totally correct though. I spend way more time fighting with my windows machine than I do my linux these days. I also just have a lot less patience fighting it because it’s always due to some dumb shit it didn’t need to be doing in the first place.
Yes it has reached that stage. But yeah I sat for days to get my fan controller and HDR to work with Zorin OS and Ubuntu before giving up (Surely the manufacturer’s fault). But yeah debloating Windows takes less than 5 minutes with tools like Chris Titus Tech.
Tracking is one of the main reasons I switched to Linux. You simply can’t know if Microsoft is tracking you, even if you turn off all of the settings. That is because it’s closed source.
Bloatware can be uninstalled manually/Winget/Chris Titus Tech Tools etc
Apart from this beeing exclusive to advanced users, in my experience, after updates or at least a reinstall you would have to do it again. And that was just getting on my nerves.
I never get Ads on Windows
That doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen for anyone else.
Look, maybe Linux is just not for you I get that. You’ve come accustomed to Windows and are happy with how it works for you.
But for some people it might be a good choice. To give an example from my own life:
I recently installed Debian 12 KDE (looks like windows) on my step dads laptop. He is not technically inclined at all mind you. And apart from setting up auto mounting his ssd, I never had to give him tech support again after that and he is very happy with it.
People like you are so irritating. What’s the point of doing this? If you wanted to argue about it then why lie to lure people into responding?
It’s Linux, fuck’s sake, if you want to argue about it just make a top level post writing anything at all about Windows or any distro and you’ll have plenty of takers.
Argument was not the plan.
Whenever someone speaks for Windows, it’s an argument.
Whenever someone speaks for Linux, it’s a fact.
Lemmy Logic.
Had the question be Why is Linux Bad?
I could have listed Driver Incompatibility with modern hardware.
The reply will be it’s the Manufacturer’s fault- Somehow this is a more acceptable reply than just uninstalling some bloatware.
If you find random people on the internet talking about pros and cons of an Operating System irritating, you have deeper problems to attend to.
I think he perfectly described the lemmy linux community. Windows is not that bad like the people here says. It just takes some time after installation to uninstall the ms crap you dont want. Windows have the best compatibility with the software and hardware. It is a fact.
He’s pretending he doesn’t want to argue so that people will respond so that he can argue. I don’t give a damn what he uses.
The two of you are in linuxmemes unhappy about how Lemmy linux users are being unfair to Windows. Good luck with that, I guess?
You don’t need to pretend to want a genuine discussion “oh I do want to try Linux so much” to get an argument. Just be direct, plenty of people will oblige you. You’re doing fine, BTW, your position is clear, nobody responding to you about OSes will get anything they weren’t expecting.
All these things are mild annoyances at best that can be disabled in a couple of clicks. At least, if you are technologically inclined. Which I hope you people are
If it was something like needing an emulator just to run most software at lower framerates, or having no support for certain hardware, it would be a good reason.
Say that after having to scour the internet to fix issues no one encountered before because the game doesn’t have Linux support. Not everyone has a offstream mentality of only enjoying obscure games dude.
Yeah I know that. But it still comes with crippling performance issues besides the compatibility issues. Not all of us have beefy systems to counterbalance that on Proton. Take a look into some of the newer releases on PC. I’m not waiting more years for games I’ve already been waiting years to get released.
Actually, Linux + Proton has been found to increase performance on several games than when run natively on Windows, for example Cyberpunk 2077, RDR2, etc.
Sure, there’s room for improvement, however Linux is improving every single day exponentially.
Me too. And running Windows is no fun.
But M$ likes to play games with you!
Is Windows bad? Why is it not fun? Can you give a few reasons? I would like to try Linux.
Ai crap, bloatware, advertisements, costs a lot, tracking, almost no customizability, less stable, …
AI can be disabled or removed from the installation file. Bloatware can be uninstalled manually/Winget/Chris Titus Tech Tools etc (You won’t have all these if you install English International) I never get Ads on Windows An OEM Licence is dirt cheap, and you don’t even need it Tracking can be disabled Define customizability? Less stable? Compared to what? I have never encountered Windows nor an Ubuntu crash unless there is some bad hardware like Memory instabilities). But I’ve had more driver crashes with Linux in modern systems (Both AMD and NVIDIA).
Ah, great. So we reached an era where a proper installation is more work with Windows than Linux. Don’t have to disable/uninstall anything on the latter (except maybe some shitty distros).
… I had never thought about it this way. You’re totally correct though. I spend way more time fighting with my windows machine than I do my linux these days. I also just have a lot less patience fighting it because it’s always due to some dumb shit it didn’t need to be doing in the first place.
Yes it has reached that stage. But yeah I sat for days to get my fan controller and HDR to work with Zorin OS and Ubuntu before giving up (Surely the manufacturer’s fault). But yeah debloating Windows takes less than 5 minutes with tools like Chris Titus Tech.
Tracking is one of the main reasons I switched to Linux. You simply can’t know if Microsoft is tracking you, even if you turn off all of the settings. That is because it’s closed source.
Apart from this beeing exclusive to advanced users, in my experience, after updates or at least a reinstall you would have to do it again. And that was just getting on my nerves.
That doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen for anyone else.
Look, maybe Linux is just not for you I get that. You’ve come accustomed to Windows and are happy with how it works for you. But for some people it might be a good choice. To give an example from my own life:
I recently installed Debian 12 KDE (looks like windows) on my step dads laptop. He is not technically inclined at all mind you. And apart from setting up auto mounting his ssd, I never had to give him tech support again after that and he is very happy with it.
“Name one reason, I would like to try Linux.”
“[Names some reasons]”
“[Argues forever]”
People like you are so irritating. What’s the point of doing this? If you wanted to argue about it then why lie to lure people into responding?
It’s Linux, fuck’s sake, if you want to argue about it just make a top level post writing anything at all about Windows or any distro and you’ll have plenty of takers.
Argument was not the plan. Whenever someone speaks for Windows, it’s an argument. Whenever someone speaks for Linux, it’s a fact. Lemmy Logic. Had the question be Why is Linux Bad? I could have listed Driver Incompatibility with modern hardware. The reply will be it’s the Manufacturer’s fault- Somehow this is a more acceptable reply than just uninstalling some bloatware.
If you find random people on the internet talking about pros and cons of an Operating System irritating, you have deeper problems to attend to.
Look at how mad you are on Microsoft’s behalf. So according to yourself, you have deep problems to attend to. Go get some help, then, good luck.
I think he perfectly described the lemmy linux community. Windows is not that bad like the people here says. It just takes some time after installation to uninstall the ms crap you dont want. Windows have the best compatibility with the software and hardware. It is a fact.
He’s pretending he doesn’t want to argue so that people will respond so that he can argue. I don’t give a damn what he uses.
The two of you are in linuxmemes unhappy about how Lemmy linux users are being unfair to Windows. Good luck with that, I guess?
You don’t need to pretend to want a genuine discussion “oh I do want to try Linux so much” to get an argument. Just be direct, plenty of people will oblige you. You’re doing fine, BTW, your position is clear, nobody responding to you about OSes will get anything they weren’t expecting.
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Name one good reason then.
All these things are mild annoyances at best that can be disabled in a couple of clicks. At least, if you are technologically inclined. Which I hope you people are
If it was something like needing an emulator just to run most software at lower framerates, or having no support for certain hardware, it would be a good reason.
Go argue with people who care about changing your opinion.
Go ahead try it. It’s easy to try and ere’s a bunch of selections to choose from. Go smack it into an old laptop or something.
Just expect to know how to fix things yourself with the help of the internet and a lot of games will probably still have issues on Linux.
mmmm yeah.
Say that after having to scour the internet to fix issues no one encountered before because the game doesn’t have Linux support. Not everyone has a offstream mentality of only enjoying obscure games dude.
https://protondb.com/
Check the list, bud. It’s far from just obscura.
Yeah I know that. But it still comes with crippling performance issues besides the compatibility issues. Not all of us have beefy systems to counterbalance that on Proton. Take a look into some of the newer releases on PC. I’m not waiting more years for games I’ve already been waiting years to get released.
Crippling is a bit extreme - have you used Proton recently?
Actually, Linux + Proton has been found to increase performance on several games than when run natively on Windows, for example Cyberpunk 2077, RDR2, etc.
Sure, there’s room for improvement, however Linux is improving every single day exponentially.
OK. Enjoy your not at all obscure lootbox grift crap then. Virtually everything not running on Linux nowadays falls into that category.
I will and have been, Windows be damned. Been having a blast playing newer and great games on PC with little issues.