Molesting children seems a few steps above rude, it seems more like inflicting life-lasting trauma which serves to maintain capitalism and all its secondary contradictions to me
Pedophilia isn’t even a natural lust, it literally only exists in the context of a society that needs to inflict harm on children to reproduce itself
I don’t doubt that you would, but I do have to question whether you’d be arguing specifically from a feminist perspective or from gut feelings derived from unquestioned beliefs.
OK that really is freaking pedantic, but if you’re just pointing out my appeal to nature Phallussy, then sure, whatever, I probably shouldn’t have used such a vague but loaded word when I wasn’t meaning it 100% literally.
Molesting children seems a few steps above rude, it seems more like inflicting life-lasting trauma which serves to maintain capitalism and all its secondary contradictions to me
For pedophilia specifically? I don’t know about the statistics, but they used it to infiltrate pedo communities and Nazi groups (which I mean, are the same) - but even then there are rarely meaningful punishments when those targets are arrested. But felonies in general are attractive because they provide more leverage for cops. The FBI hired a violent felon to infiltrate and disrupt BLM during the George Floyd protests in Colorado
I mean molestation has no inherent worth for anything but the criminal lol.
Molesting children … to maintain capitalism
infiltrate organizations that threaten capital
I’m not sure what the contradiction here is. Is infiltrating something that threatens capital the same as maintaining capitalism?
then does being open about it thwart the whole plan
Maybe. But what’s anyone gonna do about it? The CIA declassifies its abuses every few decades. A couple headlines here and there. Then what? A prince is associated with a global pedophile ring and he retreats into obscurity and everyone moves on. The only people who are hurt are the victims of the abuses and infiltrations.
Also, limited hangouts mean the abusers can stoke the heinous acts themselves for people to focus on as spectacles, while the the victims and implications are ignored. The knowledge that it exists is enough for people to feel like they’ve accomplished something and move on.
I don’t really know anything about this phenomenon so forgive me if I ask dumb questions, but why would feds recruit pedophiles to infiltrate orgs? It’s not like they have any special skills for that.
From what I understand, it’s not so much their skills as an informant/agent provocateur that’s appealing, as having them firmly in the pocket of the alphabet agencies. Knowing your handler can single handedly ruin your life (as credible allegations of paedophilia probably would) is one hell of an incentive to stay on their good side and do their bidding, as a matter of self-preservation. Knowing your agent is likely not gonna flip (like a lot of CIA/FBI did in the early Cold War) helps too.
Some may have desirable traits that doesn’t necessarily involve skill. And this goes for any criminal with a potentially hefty sentence.
For example, cartel drug dealers get turned because they may face extradition and are close with king pins. Some hackers or businessmen may be unremarkable but they control important illicit marketplaces which could net more gains for Feds. Pedos may be good at manipulation or simply have the means to procure children to compromise other targets. The BLM infiltrator the in my OP lied about ever serving in militias and fighting against ISIS. He was just a grimy, loud, violent asshole whose presence was intoxicating to the activists.
Regardless, the usual commonality between all of them is that their lives could be ruined, deservingly or not.
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Yes the rest of us politely restrain our lust for children because we don’t want to be rude
Molesting children seems a few steps above rude, it seems more like inflicting life-lasting trauma which serves to maintain capitalism and all its secondary contradictions to me
Pedophilia isn’t even a natural lust, it literally only exists in the context of a society that needs to inflict harm on children to reproduce itself
I’d argue it’s as “natural” as psychopathy or pyromania tbh
I don’t doubt that you would, but I do have to question whether you’d be arguing specifically from a feminist perspective or from gut feelings derived from unquestioned beliefs.
Pedantry over what “natural” means, as pedophilia has been observed in penguins and otters, and I think dolphins as well
OK that really is freaking pedantic, but if you’re just pointing out my appeal to nature Phallussy, then sure, whatever, I probably shouldn’t have used such a vague but loaded word when I wasn’t meaning it 100% literally.
As long as we’re being pedantic that’s what matters
Damn I can’t even be mad at you
Technically you can
Hey, fire is fucking dope.
How does that serve to maintain capitalism?
Get arrested by Feds -> get turned into an informant -> infiltrate organizations that threaten capital
Is this a well known/common phenomenon?
For pedophilia specifically? I don’t know about the statistics, but they used it to infiltrate pedo communities and Nazi groups (which I mean, are the same) - but even then there are rarely meaningful punishments when those targets are arrested. But felonies in general are attractive because they provide more leverage for cops. The FBI hired a violent felon to infiltrate and disrupt BLM during the George Floyd protests in Colorado
So does it maintain capital or threaten capital?
And if it maintains capitalism because of kompromat, then does being open about it thwart the whole plan?
I mean molestation has no inherent worth for anything but the criminal lol.
I’m not sure what the contradiction here is. Is infiltrating something that threatens capital the same as maintaining capitalism?
Maybe. But what’s anyone gonna do about it? The CIA declassifies its abuses every few decades. A couple headlines here and there. Then what? A prince is associated with a global pedophile ring and he retreats into obscurity and everyone moves on. The only people who are hurt are the victims of the abuses and infiltrations.
Also, limited hangouts mean the abusers can stoke the heinous acts themselves for people to focus on as spectacles, while the the victims and implications are ignored. The knowledge that it exists is enough for people to feel like they’ve accomplished something and move on.
I don’t really know anything about this phenomenon so forgive me if I ask dumb questions, but why would feds recruit pedophiles to infiltrate orgs? It’s not like they have any special skills for that.
From what I understand, it’s not so much their skills as an informant/agent provocateur that’s appealing, as having them firmly in the pocket of the alphabet agencies. Knowing your handler can single handedly ruin your life (as credible allegations of paedophilia probably would) is one hell of an incentive to stay on their good side and do their bidding, as a matter of self-preservation. Knowing your agent is likely not gonna flip (like a lot of CIA/FBI did in the early Cold War) helps too.
Some may have desirable traits that doesn’t necessarily involve skill. And this goes for any criminal with a potentially hefty sentence.
For example, cartel drug dealers get turned because they may face extradition and are close with king pins. Some hackers or businessmen may be unremarkable but they control important illicit marketplaces which could net more gains for Feds. Pedos may be good at manipulation or simply have the means to procure children to compromise other targets. The BLM infiltrator the in my OP lied about ever serving in militias and fighting against ISIS. He was just a grimy, loud, violent asshole whose presence was intoxicating to the activists.
Regardless, the usual commonality between all of them is that their lives could be ruined, deservingly or not.