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Absolutely insane ruling but unsurprising that the government would fuck over renters in yet another way. They say it’s the tenants responsibility to know if their landlord resides in another country and to plan for that. This is just going to incentivize foreign landlords to not pay taxes and pushing all the responsibilities onto the tenant.
Real back to colonial absentee landowners vibes
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sounds like the tenant should own the place now
Unfortunately the Canadian economy runs on tenants never owning property, the landlords would have a fit if one tenant was treated fairly like that
That’s genuinely the dumbest legal decision. How is the correct answer not something like putting a lien against the property?
Sounds like tenants should have access to all tax, travel and ID documents of their landlord.
bank details too
That’s absolutely fucking insane
FYI I think I found the actual case: 2023 TCC 37 (CanLII) | 3792391 Canada Inc. v. The King
To be clear, in the below quotes,
- “Appellant” is the tenant (actually a numbered company 3792391 Canada Inc that he owns and was paying his rent for him)
- “Respondent” is HIS MAJESTY THE KING (the CRA).
- The actual landlord who arguably was the one who should have been paying taxes (Sebastiana Trimarchi) isn’t even a party to this case.
Sort By Old for my livetweeting of me reading this document to put this subthread in order.
Summary by me, a person you shouldn’t rely on: If you live in Canada and your landlord has en email address not ending in
.caor.com, if they have an international phone number, if they mention living outside Canada, if they speak any language but english, or you have any other hints that they may not reside in Canada, you should send 25% of your rent to CRA (how do you even do that?) . When your landlord tries to evict you for non-payment of rent, I assume CRA will step in to defend your ass saying you were just doing your best to make sure the taxes are all correctly paid.And, finally, the Appellant argues that the penalties ought not to apply because Sebastiana Trimarchi actively dissimulated her non-resident status.
I had to look up the word “dissimulated”
dissimulate /dĭ-sĭm′yə-lāt″/ intransitive verb
To conceal (one’s intentions, for example) under a feigned appearance. synonym: disguise.
In addition, she provided two phone numbers, a Montreal number and an international number. Mr. Siscoe testified that he highly doubts that he would have paid attention to either of those numbers. I note that the international number is the number at which the auditor reached Sebastiana Trimarchi in October 2018 (Exhibit R-11).
Wild
[16] Little can be gleaned from the email correspondence between Mr. Siscoe and Sebastiana Trimarchi introduced into evidence other than the fact that her email address ended in .it rather than .ca or .com and the fact that one email contains language that Mr. Siscoe recognized as most likely Italian, stating that he speaks Italian, although not that well.
[25] In response to the Appellant’s submission that the Minister was ““easy”” on Ms Trimarchi but ““hard”” on the Appellant, Counsel for the Respondent stated that everyone had been assessed as is expressly authorized under the Act.
The unit was 501-4175 Sainte Catherine West in Westmount, Quebec
Here is the building the unit was located in: https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/26622741/4175-rue-ste-catherine-o-302-westmount
First thing I notice is that this is a commercial tenancy.Edit: That is incorrect. Actually it goes on[10] David Siscoe is the tenant who occupied unit 501 as his personal residence.
He just also owns a gym.
This is the leaseholder:
[43] With respect to the penalty imposed in this matter, I agree with the Appellant that a defence of due diligence is available but, of course, that defence has to be made out. The Appellant has not proven that it has exercised reasonable care to ensure compliance with its obligations. The courts have found that to be successful in mounting a defence to the imposition of a penalty, it is expected that the taxpayer seeking to invoke a due diligence defence must show that they exercised a high degree of diligence to comply with their obligations under the Act (see for example, Ogden Palladium Services (Canada) Inc v R, 2001 DTC 345). In the circumstances of this case, the Appellant took no steps to ensure compliance with its withholding obligations. Counsel submitted that the Appellant was justified in not taking steps to ensure compliance because it had no reason to believe that Sebastiana Trimarchi was a non-resident. Unfortunately, that is not enough to meet the standard of a high degree of diligence. I therefore find that the Minister was justified in assessing the penalty pursuant to section 227(8) of the Act.
2001 CanLII 483 (TCC) | Ogden Palladium Services (Canada) Inc. v. The Queen | CanLII
I ctrl-F skimmed the reference, here is what I think is the relevant bit
hidden because it's too in the weeds
[41] The issue then becomes one of whether the appellants can positively prove that all reasonable care was exercised to ensure that errors not be made (see Pillar Oilfield Projects Ltd. v. The Queen, [1993] G.S.T.C. 49 (T.C.C.)). This Court has said that a taxpayer is expected to comply with the requirements of the Act with a high degree of diligence, using the sources of information, facilities and resources available to that taxpayer. (See Bennett v. The Queen, 96 DTC 1630 and Somnus Enterprises Ltd. v. The Queen, [1995] G.S.T.C. 4.)
[42] In the present case, I agree with counsel for the respondent that the appellants did not produce any evidence as to the steps they took with respect to their withholding obligation. Counsel for the appellants contended that the appellants had obtained advice from their professional advisors and that the appellants were justified in believing that no tax was payable by Marco just on a common sense interpretation of the Licence Agreements.
[43] I wonder why those agreements were not filed in evidence if counsel wanted to rely on them to invoke the due diligence defence. Certainly, without having those agreements in evidence it is very difficult for me to evaluate the correctness of the interpretation put forward by counsel for the appellants.
[44] Furthermore, no evidence was adduced other than the Agreed Statement of Facts. I do not see in that Statement anything to the effect that the appellants consulted professional advisors before making their decision not to withhold any amount on the payments made to Marco. There is no evidence before me regarding what the appellants did once Marco’s request for a waiver was denied.
[45] The appellants, as payors, had a duty to ensure that they had fulfilled all their obligations under the Act. I see no evidence showing that the appellants took any action in that regard. The fact that Marco had obtained a waiver in the previous year is not a valid defence, as a non-resident is required to make such a request in advance of the payment to be received. It is the Minister who has the authority, pursuant to subsection 153(1.1) of the Act to reduce the required withholding under section 105 of the Regulations.
[46] It is only upon receipt of a waiver that a payor is released from the obligation of withholding an amount from payments made to a non-resident. Without such a waiver, the payor’s obligation must stand. The burden remains on the non-resident to show that no tax is payable in Canada and to request a refund, if any is due.
[47] For all these reasons, I am of the opinion that the appellants did not discharge their burden of showing that they exercised due diligence. The penalties shall therefore be maintained.
[48] The appeals are dismissed, with costs.
Signed at Ottawa, Canada, this 12th day of March 2001.
“Lucie Lamarre”
J.T.C.C.
[46] The appeal is dismissed without costs.
Signed at Ottawa, Canada, this 30th day of March 2023.
This whole thing happened over 1 year ago.
The judge who made the ruling is Gabrielle St-Hilaire. Government of Canada announces judicial appointment to the Tax Court of Canada
(I will start using a fancier copy/paste method to include links in my quotes) (Also I added linebreaks and subquotes for readability in this specific comment.)
[38] The Appellant suggested that the general obligation to withhold and remit should be interpreted as providing for a defence of due diligence as has been recognized in the case law for the interpretation of some penalty provisions. I agree that the case law has consistently held that a taxpayer can present a due diligence defence with respect to some penalty provisions but I do not agree that a due diligence defence can be mounted with respect to the obligation to withhold and remit pursuant to subsection 215(6).
Support can be found in Justice Hogan’s decision in J.K. Reed Engineering Ltd v R, 2014 TCC 309 at para 17 wherein he stated:
“Subsection 215(6) of the Act is a charging provision that makes the payer liable for the payee’s tax if the payer fails to deduct or withhold at the time of payment tax that is payable by the payee. In contrast, subsection 227(8) of the Act is a penalty provision. A due diligence defence can be mounted against the latter but not the former.”
It is worth reiterating that subsection 227(8) of the Act is an actual penalty provision for failure to withhold and remit any amount as required by section 215, added to support the collection of taxes imposed by the charging provision.
I would add that, in any event, in this case, there is no suggestion nor evidence of due diligence on the part of the Appellant.
[31] As part of her audit procedures, Ms. Jiofack verified whether Sebastiana Trimarchi, the recipient of the rental payments was declaring this income. She discovered that Sebastiana Trimarchi had a social insurance number but did not file any income tax returns nor did she find any information returns such as those related to employment or interest income. In addition, other than providing her address at 1402-4175 Sainte Catherine Ouest, the Equifax report the auditor requested came back ““empty”.” Ms. Jiofack testified that, after consulting the land register, she was unable to find property, other than unit 501, tying Sebastiana to Canada.
Is it possible in Canada to find out what income someone is declaring if you are not a CRA auditor??
[32] Through information obtained from family members, Ms. Jiofack reached Sebastiana Trimarchi in Italy. I note that the telephone number used is the same one as that provided by Sebastiana on the lease she signed in 2010. During that conversation, Sebastiana stated that she was living in Italy. Ms. Jiofack testified that there was no contestation and no ambiguity that she was living in Italy and they had a discussion about Sebastiana’s tax obligations as a non-resident.
Is this kind of investigation what is expected of a tenant?
[37] The Appellant further argued that an interpretation that would have subsection 215(6) apply to impose Part XIII tax on a tenant that has no knowledge that the landlord is a non-resident would be unjust and submitted that cannot be what the legislator intended. He implored the Court to choose an interpretation that is sensible, one that people can accept, rather than one that causes an injustice. Counsel acknowledged that the text of the provision does not contain a requirement that the payer have knowledge that the payee is a non-resident and stated he had no evidence of the legislator’s intention.
[39] To summarize the Appellant’s reasoning, since David Siscoe did not know, and had no reason to believe, that Sebastiana Trimarchi was a non-resident, section 215 should not apply to the Appellant.
[40] Counsel for the Respondent argued that liability under subsection 215(6) is not dependent on the taxpayer’s knowledge that payments were made to a non-resident.
when the legislator wants to limit a resident’s liability to circumstances where they have knowledge or belief, it expressly does so. Subsection 116(5) is one such example.
