• jumperalex@lemmy.world
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      Came here to ask the same-ish thing. I’m guessing field medic? Only reason to need scissors at the ready I can think of.

      Either that, or the Russians are using some shitty razor wire.

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    Stop utilizing animals for war propaganda. There are lots of animals on both sides and they are all victims of what humans are doing.

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      Usually dogs and cats are just there. Hungry and lonely, abandoned by their owners or having no alive owners. Between feeding and not feeding such pets soldiers choose the first one. And the pets start living with the soldiers. Then the soldiers make photos of their new pets. So, it’s not propaganda.

      And there’s an important correction: animals are victims of what Russians are doing.

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        You are obviously not able to get on the meta perspective here, that is clear after your comment - so discussing with you would be a waste of time …

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          A different perspective of fighting back when a country invades you and murders, rapes, and pillages your people?

          Please illuminate us on this super meta perspective.

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              The Russian trolls are not really very clever are they it’s mostly just about being irritating rather than convincing.

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              The only stupidity here is that people like you are unable to understand that posting hundreds and thousands of pictures of Ukrainian soldiers with cute animals on social media equals a propaganda campaign that´s all…

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                The only stupidity here is that you are spreading ruzzian propaganda, and being a hypocrite.

                Why do you hate the animals?

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                  You are hallucinating. Please quote where I voiced support for military aggression by anyone (hint: you can´t because I never did that)

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            But that is not at all the topic here. Stop your cheap effort to derail the discussion. If you don´t get that posting hundreds and thousands of pictures of Ukrainian soldiers with cute animals on social media equals a propaganda campaign I can not help you.

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              It can be viewed as propoganda, just as your idiotic blithering defending the ruzzian orcs is definitely propaganda. The difference is that the kitty picture is “good” propaganda, that will help end the war and stop harming anumals. Your shilling is causing harm to other animals.

              Why don’t you get on the animal’s side and stop helping the ruzzian orcs harm them?

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                defending the ruzzian orcs is definitely propaganda

                But I never did that. I challenge you to quote where I did. (hint: you can´t because I never said anything like that) Im starting to think this sub is full of crazy hysterics.

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                  You didn’t need to. Hint. Tacit approval of their actions exists when you clearly call out the Ukrainians for defending themselves against the Russian aggressors, which you did.

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                Im am on the animals side, much more than you are. That´s why I am worried about animals in every country, unlike you.

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        Hypocrite! I checked your account history and found that you have been regularly posting Ukrainian war propaganda. Stop pretending, it´s simply ridiculous. Blocked you for being a liar and a shill.

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            Please quote where I supported military aggression by anyone. I´m waiting … (hint: you can´t because I never did)

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              You voiced disapproval in the Ukrainians, but not the Ruzzians that caused it. You support the Ruzzians. You refuse to denounce them, making it very clear that your support them

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                You voiced disapproval in the Ukrainians

                No, I never did that. I invite you to quote where I did that. Please understand that disliking war propaganda of either side does not equal taking sides in a conflict.

                You support the Ruzzians

                No, I don´t. I invite you to quote where I did that.

                You refuse to denounce them

                No, I don´t. I invite you to quote where I said that I refuse to denounce them.

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          You would think if I was trying to make a propaganda campaign out of something I wouldn’t have freely admitted to finding them in my ‘Ukrainian War’ folder, and would have more than three to share. But have it your way - useful idiots always do.

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        iT’s jUsT a CaT pIc, GuY.

        edit: If it was a picture of a cat with a Russian soldier, something tells me your attitude would be very different. I support kicking out the invaders, but propaganda playing with emotions doesn’t sit well with me.

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        It is much more than that. It is very obviously an attempt to use cute animals to raise sympathy for the Ukrainian Army. Everybody likes pictures of cute animals so that is being exploited. For months hundreds of pictures like this have been posted on reddit systematically. If you don´t see the pattern and think that is not an organized propaganda campaign you are simply being naive.

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          As long as it damages any Russian efforts to justify their unilateral genocide… Bring on the cat pics.

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            “I support fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian.”

            “It’s such a relief that I can finally channel my racism in a socially-acceptable way now that we are in a proxy war with Russia. Orc orc orc.”

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              Russia literally invaded a democratic neighboring country. There was a lot of empathy for drafted Russian soldiers until their calls home were leaked and people started finding mass graves full of Ukrainian citizens. I’m not really sure what you’re expecting here?

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                I expect the responses I’m receiving. I don’t respond expecting any change, I respond with the hope that once in awhile, someone may come along and read a comment that makes them question the narratives that they’ve been taught to blindly accept.

                I hope that people can look beyond the propaganda they are hit with and realize that continuing to support this conflict will do nothing to help the Ukrainian citizens. What it will do is create a situation where Ukraine is perpetually indebted to NATO countries and the companies within that wish to exploit Ukraine, further enrich the morally bankrupt military industry, and produce dangerous conditions that the Ukrainian and Russian people will be paying for with their health for decades to come similar to what we see in Laos, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

                Allowing comments with underlying messages and assumptions that dehumanize a people to go uncontested has already led to widespread acceptance of racism towards “the other,” which is something that is always unacceptable.

                I hope people will quit swallowing the tepid justifications for war that the rich and their puppets push. Splitting those of us who have to pay the costs of their destruction along ideological lines that don’t even get to the root of the problem wastes our energy on meaningless discourse and further stabilizes the dictatorship the rich have nearly the entire world under.

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                The USA literally goes around the entire world invading countries. No one seems to care since I guess those countries are not considered “democratic” (i.e. western, white, blond-haired and blue-eyed) enough.

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                  bUt tHeY oNLy dO So To tO hELp tHoSe sHiThOLe cOuNTRiES bY bRinginG ThEm FREEDOM&DEMOCRAY ™ !

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                  Democracy is when the US does a coup and the country is ruled by Azov and Pravny Sektor, lol

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            I honestly believe no reasonable person thinks that reacting to expansionism by trade agreements and diplomacy with counter expansionism by war is justified. If someone is misguided enough to believes it is, cat pictures will probably not help.

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              Most people feel before they think. The fact you didn’t consider that leads me to conclude your definition of “reasonable” is flawed.

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                You obviously don´t understand at all what reasonable means. Something is reasonable when it is based on logic reasoning (and not on emotion). That is exactly what makes it reasonable.

                Reason is the capacity of applying logic consciously by drawing conclusions from new or existing information, with the aim of seeking the truth (…) Reason is sometimes referred to as rationality Source: Wikipedia

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                  You are naive and inflexible. That is unreasonable.

                  Also that’s not the definition of reasonable. So you are inexact as well. Bad combination.

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                  Well that excludes you. You are incapable of understanding that these pictures help the animals and harm the ruzzian orcs. Instead you have filled this thread with your implicit approval of the orcs.

                  Stop being a hypocrite. Be a better human.

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          “Organized propaganda campaign”

          My guy hanging with animals, pets or former strays, is what bored soldiers do, all the way back to antiquity. Or at least is one of the more family-friendly things bored soldiers do.

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            Nothing wrong with that, I have respect for everyone who is taking care of animals in horrible situations as war. Using photos of it for means of propaganda is a whole different topic though.

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                You are hallucinating. I never wrote anything like that. Please quote where I did (hint: you can´t because there is no such statement from me)

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                  You don’t have to. Your actions and words are full of tacit approval of the Ruzzians since you refuse to denounce them and have called out the Ukrainian victims here.