• 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Too bad we don’t have any millionaire toilet cleaners or garbage collectors, even though we NEED them.

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        2 months ago

        But that’s an entirely different premise than “nobody needs to work”…

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          2 months ago

          Who said “nobody needs to work”?

          The actual premise is that your labor shouldn’t be exploited to produce products for the sole purpose of producing products, which make a few people rich while you get nothing. If we’re working to keep necessary services functioning, thats a different story. We can all do that as a society without a business/corporation telling us to do it.

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            2 months ago

            Who said “nobody needs to work”?

            Literally the post.

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                  2 months ago

                  “We want the zero hour work week!” Vs “nobody needs to work”

                  “We want the zero hour work week!” implies a desire to reduce the standard work week to zero hours. It suggests people still want to work and contribute value through their work, just with fewer required work hours.

                  “Nobody needs to work” is a broader statement that questions whether work itself is necessary. It could be interpreted as meaning that people should not be obligated or required to work at all, and that their basic needs should still be met without contributing labor.

                  Overall, the first sentence focuses more on reducing work hours while still valuing work itself. The second calls into question whether work is inherently needed for people to live and thrive. Both discuss reducing the role of work, but they have slightly different philosophical implications.

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                    2 months ago

                    You asked what was said, not what what was implied.

                    If everyone is entitled to a 0 hour work week, that means they are entitled to do 0 hours of work.

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      2 months ago

      I guess if nobody wants to do it, the market would have to price that labor much higher to make that happen due to a low supply for a high demand service.

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        The problem is that companies have more leverage than individuals. How many minimum wage protests have we seen over the years, and they are still getting paid for that. A company is probably going to find someone desperate enough to fill any gap. A person needs to survive, and without an income they become desperate enough to fill any gap.

        Usually people with high salaries can bargain and use leverage because they aren’t desperate to get a job to survive.

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          But that’s what these antiwork posts are about. If people weren’t desperate to survive a lot of problems would sort themselves out.