• onoira [they/them]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    good post. two notes:

    Not sure if this is the original intent, but I personally see it as not requiring individuals to work a standard work week to survive.

    that is what antiwork — and thus the meaning of this community — is: the critique of work, where work refers to wage labour and performative toil, as this wholly separate sphere of/from life, and its origins as a system of control, and the psychological, physical and environmental harms it brings. it is not against labour conceptually; it is fundamentally anticapitalist.

    this community has a way of ragebaiting bad faith, law-and-order liberals browsing All; who don’t read the sidebar, who have fully internalised the Protestant work ethic, and who think ‘work’ refers to both ‘all labour’ and ‘wage labour’, and who think dispossession and wage labour are necessary to prevent everyone from getting depression or turning into Fallout raiders.

    All this said - I have no idea if this will work out positively, highly doubtful it could happen at a large scale, recognize there is likely 1000 holes here and new problems to arise, and don’t fully believe it’s feasible nor that I’m remotely intelligent enough to claim this has any real grounding.

    political imaginaries don’t need to be completely fleshed out ten steps in advance. it’s enough just to identify a problem. it’s more than enough to start imagining the first steps to solving those problems. you don’t need anyone’s permission to imagine.

    the implementation details are not important at an abstract level. those would reveal themselves as a natural consequence of implementation, and the details would be unique to every social and cultural environment.

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      2 months ago

      I’m a professor so I caveat quite a bit when I’m outside my domain out of habit, I appreciate the notes here and definitely see how folks could come in with highly skewed perspectives against what’s possible or what’s meant there. The terms here help, thank you!

    • platypus_plumba@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Alright, I see what you don’t want as a community, but what do you want then?

      Let’s assume for a moment that nobody has to work, so my guess is that most people won’t work. How is that society designed? I’m not saying it isn’t possible, I personally can’t imagine it… mainly because I have never put too much thought into the matter. But I see you have, so I’m curious to learn how you imagine that society.