• TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    I don’t think the problem is the lack of real progressiveness, I think the problem is with an attempt to gaslight it from both extremes. Just got banned from worldnews (again) on completely gaslit reasons because of criticism I was making against the Act.IL remnants operating over there. Downvoting into oblivion isn’t enough for them anymore.

    I’ve also noticed comparable instances of shadow removals from the other side of the coin in worldnews@lemmy.ml where they similarly gaslit their reasons. I’ve sort of decided if both sides are going to be this putrid, then I’m going to step out of their propaganda wars, and gotta say, the Mossad side is rapidly losing ground regardless of the advantage they might have had.

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        7 months ago

        One of the biggest issues I have with a ton of people is the need to have a “glorious leader”, or the assumption that everyone has one. I’ll vote against Trump doesn’t mean Biden is my “glorious leader”, nor Bernie, nor AOC. People are flawed and worshiping someone will always be problematic. Never meet your heroes, etc.

        People also seem to act like hating what one country does means you have to love what the countries considered enemies of them do. America has done a ton of shit and still does a ton of shit it shouldn’t do, and I think we need to be honest about the impact and work to fix it. I think Russia and China also fits in those roles.

        There isn’t a world leader today I’d treat as infallible, and I have never pledged my allegiance to a country (at first, for religious reasons, but now that I am not religious, more for ideological reasons). I will still work for the betterment of where I live, pay taxes, etc, but I’m not going to be some jingoistic nationalist nor act like there is some perfect country I’d rather be in. I might eventually want to be in a different country depending how the future goes, but it wouldn’t be because I think that country is perfect. I don’t believe such a thing exists.

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          7 months ago

          That’s literally what Republicans do. They will vote for anyone as long as it’s not Democrat.

          Then we painted that off as Glorious leader Trump that Repubs will vote for no matter what.

          Now the Dems have a glorious leader as well.