• iiGxC@slrpnk.net
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    7 months ago

    As long as we exploit and abuse other species, we won’t be able to reach any sort of utopia

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        7 months ago

        Stopping deer management would truly and utterly FUCK nature.

        So that’s what you want…?

        The purpose of deer management is to regulate the population’s size, reduce negative effects of population on the ecosystem, and maintain the integrity of other populations.

        We humans replaced apex predators a long time ago in most of the world. If we don’t regulate the populations now, nature is fucked. Not just one species, not just one population, but the whole lot of them in the area that is being managed.

        So unless your aim is purposefully to fuck an ecosystem and cause suffering to vast swathes of animals (and cause more accidents and problems with humans), then deer management is a must.

        There’s literally no other way.

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          7 months ago

          Us fucking with nature is what started this problem. Step away and let nature do its thing. Also fuck cars.

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            7 months ago

            “Step away and let nature do it’s thing”

            WE ARE part of nature, no matter how much you wish we were above it and didn’t have to accept reality and could live in a lala-land where death doesn’t exist.

            In most of Western and Northern Europe, the wolf has been long since replaced as the apex predator. Bears even more so. There’s very few of either, except for in large conservation zones, if that.

            If we just stop managing the deer, the overpopulation of deer will result in a massive economic catastrophe that will devastate whole ecosystems and fuck over innumerable species of animals.

            So is that what you’re after? Destroying nature and causing excessive suffering to animals?

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          7 months ago

          The purpose of deer management is to regulate the population’s size, reduce negative effects of population on the ecosystem, and maintain the integrity of other populations.

          Ie to make sure nature doesn’t get fucked.

          You don’t know what ecological conservation is, or you’re actually against it…?

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            7 months ago

            Lmao ‘ecological conservation’ is a great doublespeak for anthropocentric optimization

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              7 months ago

              So you don’t believe in the need to protect nature?

              For instance when you visit Australia, there’s very stringent procedures so you don’t bring any invasive animals or plants with you. Can’t even have slightly dirty boots with foreign soil.

              How is that “antropocentric optimisation”?

              So you don’t believe in reality, got it.