Yeah agreed. I’m just saying what’s the difference between someone choosing to subject themselves to that heat for religion vs someone who chose to do it for some other reason. I’m not religious, but the fact that someone else died practicing what they believe doesn’t make me happy. The initial comment I replied to is just feeding into the atheism circle-jerk that’s really common here.
The point is that someone willing to die in the heat for something that doesn’t exist probably isn’t the most useful to society. It doesn’t have to make you happy
why hate on them if you don’t understand them? I honestly couldn’t care less about religion personally, but I don’t go out of my way to say they’re stupid. sounds like you think the Muslim religion is stupid and so you’re projecting onto Muslims and saying they’re stupid because you personally think the religion is stupid.
No I don’t care if people practice religion. But if you willingly go out out in deadly heat because of it, that makes you stupid. If they were doing it because of another reason I’d call that stupid too.
It’s not really easy for us to tell who’s useful for society, even less so if you want to be even a little bit objective. If your metric is intelligence, that’s not a good one (depression, substance use disorder, and many other things that don’t make for a super happy or functional person are correlated with intelligence).
I’m not talking about intelligence. There’s lots of intelligent religious people. I’m talking about people killing themselves because their religious leaders want them to pray in 120° heat in the sun. Unless you’re being forced, if you willingly doing that, you’re an idiot.
That’s fair, sorry. There’s going to be unintended consequences if agreeable, optimistic people are suddenly gone from the population, which the original removed comment starting this thread suggested wasn’t an issue.
Is the issue here really that they were practicing their religion, or is the issue the 125°F heat?
you can simply choose not to commit suicide by willingly going to a place thats 125° and standing in the sun
Yeah agreed. I’m just saying what’s the difference between someone choosing to subject themselves to that heat for religion vs someone who chose to do it for some other reason. I’m not religious, but the fact that someone else died practicing what they believe doesn’t make me happy. The initial comment I replied to is just feeding into the atheism circle-jerk that’s really common here.
The point is that someone willing to die in the heat for something that doesn’t exist probably isn’t the most useful to society. It doesn’t have to make you happy
why hate on them if you don’t understand them? I honestly couldn’t care less about religion personally, but I don’t go out of my way to say they’re stupid. sounds like you think the Muslim religion is stupid and so you’re projecting onto Muslims and saying they’re stupid because you personally think the religion is stupid.
No I don’t care if people practice religion. But if you willingly go out out in deadly heat because of it, that makes you stupid. If they were doing it because of another reason I’d call that stupid too.
It’s not really easy for us to tell who’s useful for society, even less so if you want to be even a little bit objective. If your metric is intelligence, that’s not a good one (depression, substance use disorder, and many other things that don’t make for a super happy or functional person are correlated with intelligence).
I’m not talking about intelligence. There’s lots of intelligent religious people. I’m talking about people killing themselves because their religious leaders want them to pray in 120° heat in the sun. Unless you’re being forced, if you willingly doing that, you’re an idiot.
There’s going to be unintended consequences if you intentionally get rid of agreeable, optimistic people.
When did I ever say I wanted to intentionally get rid of people?
That’s fair, sorry. There’s going to be unintended consequences if agreeable, optimistic people are suddenly gone from the population, which the original removed comment starting this thread suggested wasn’t an issue.
Yes