• NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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    5 个月前

    By your standards I could provide a counter argument like: Has any Israeli launched an unprovoked attack on Palestinians and kidnapped 300 of them?

    Setting aside the naivety of calling October 7th unprovoked, uh… Yes?

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      5 个月前

      The history of Palestine is super messy. All sides have committed terrible acts to the other, coming back hundreds of years. Each side can always look at recent history and claim X has provoked Y or Y has caused a disaster on X.

      You can claim this was a provoked attack. I for once can hardly justify an attack on civilians. You can argue, Israel has done worse in the past, and while each side is biased, perhaps you’d be right.

      My point is. This is an endless discussion

      Both sides are bad. IMO the best outcome at the moment is to stop the conflict as soon as possible

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        coming back hundreds of years.

        Huh? The conflict began about a hundred years ago.

        You can claim this was a provoked attack. I for once can hardly justify an attack on civilians.

        The attack had real military objectives. It wasn’t just “let’s kill some civilians in Israel”.

        IMO the best outcome at the moment is to stop the conflict as soon as possible

        Only one side has the power to do that. Putting the oppressed and the oppressor on the same level only serves to justify their oppression.

        The idea that the best outcome is to stop the conflict as soon as possible is correct, but for that you need Israel to acknowledge Palestinains’ right to self-determination.