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Hunter Biden, the son of President Joe Biden, will plead guilty to three federal charges, the Justice Department said Tuesday in a court filing.
Poster Comment: If the man committed a crime, then he needs to do the time.
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Hunter Biden will plead guilty to two federal tax misdemeanors and one charge tied to gun possession, according to the filing in a federal court in Delaware.
This will be made a huge deal by the GQP but it will interesting to see what the full charges are.
I can see it already: “Ha! Hunter Biden did crimes! Do you think he should go to jail?”
“Well, yes, we do.”
“Gotcha! Why should Biden go free when Trump is being indicted?”
“That’s not at all what we said.”
“Clearly you’re just playing political favoritism! Witch hunters!”
Remember when Epstein was arrested and Democrats said Bill Clinton should be held to account and Trumpies were like, “Yeah!” but still said Trump shouldn’t be?
It’s a cult.
No no no. Witch Hunters?
It’s Hunter Biden.
My argument has always been “if he’s done the crime, he should do the time”. And one of the things that always kills me about Hunter which perfectly illustrates your point is how much they hate the fact that Hunter has gotten lucrative jobs and deals based on his father’s political standing. Yet when you mention anything sketchy about the deals that Ivanka and Jared got? They clap their hands over their ears or make whatever excuse they can think of for why those two shouldn’t be held to the same standards relating to enrichment via political favors.
Next thing we know he will be running for Congress as an R. Credentials are there!
I dunno, he seems to have actually filed a tax return so he might not be qualified.
😂 good point!
I’m interested to see how they spin the gun thing.
I’m thinking something like “they only want guns for themselves and want to take ours away!”
It’s always the projection - they will support corrupt politicians day in and day out so they assume everyone on the left also turns a blind eye.
That will surely be top comment on r/conservative as soon as they hear of it, I can already see it.
That’s exactly what they’ll say.
As of 15 minutes ago the article is no longer stating he pled out on the gun charge.
Currently it states
Hunter Biden, the son of President Joe Biden, will plead guilty to two tax misdemeanors and struck a deal with federal prosecutors to resolve a felony gun charge, the Justice Department said Tuesday in court filings.
And then goes on to say
“A firearm charge, which will be subject to a pretrial diversion agreement and will not be the subject of the plea agreement, will also be filed by the Government."
My guess is they more-or-less dropped it as they didn’t want him challenging the constitutionality of The Gun Control Act of 1968 like he said he would.
I appreciate this info… I’m a little disappointed though, because if it’s gonna get challenged… I’d love to see the maga crowd try to figure out how to be angry at hunter Biden for fighting gun control….
I’d love to see the maga crowd try to figure out how to be angry at hunter Biden for fighting gun control….
Probably with the same ease they dismiss Reagan having signed The Mulford Act.
Their position has always been perfectly logically consistent, and it is, “We are the in-group, fuck you.”
I too care about using rich people that have actively sequestered themselves from the rest of society for imaginary board game clashes with other poor people! I want to play too!
I see your Tiger Biden and raise you a Dennys Trump with an armour boost of leaked pee papers or something!! Did I win? Am I doing it right? Wait, what, there’s no winners? It’s all for the sheer joy of the game? Okay!
Misdemeanors…reminds me of this
No one is above the law. Now, republicans, can you say the same?
They don’t actually care about the law. Hunter Biden is only useful to them as something to deflect and waste air complaining about, they don’t actually want anything to happen to him legally and they don’t care about principle.
This isn’t entirely true. They also wank off to his dick pic.
Hunter is just their bullshit scapegoat for all their idiotic outrage & conspiracy shit, and only because he’s the son of the current democratic president.
So his accountant fucked up his taxes and he brought a gun into a gun-free governmental zone at some point?
He also lied about drug use on his paperwork while buying the gun. Which is also felony.
He also also admitted to drug posession while armed, which is another felony.
You know what’s also a felony? Stealing and concealing top secret-eyes only classified documents.
Sure and anyone doing that should be punished as well. That’s a separate topic. Hunter Biden needs to face the consequences for his actions, hence this thread.
Yeah, uh, that’s why Trump is being charged with 38 federal crimes. What was even the point of this comment?
Is this thread about Hunter Biden or Trump?
Why do we even give a shit about Hunter Biden? Is he or was he in office? Was he on his dad’s presidential staff?
It’s a human interest story. He’s the president’s son, so he’s going to garner attention.
See:
Sasha and Malia
Barbara Bush jr
Chelsea Clinton
Donald Trump jrPeople are just interested in the whole family. I mean, I don’t give two shits, but a lot of people do. Just that good 'ol collective western psyche
I am downvoting this post not because I disagree with you, but this thread is about Hunter Biden’s legal issues, not Trumps. I hate Trump and everything he stands for, but I think we should focus our conversations on the topics at hand lest this become an echo chamber. There are plenty of threads on the fediverse devoted to talking shit on the orange menace and I encourage you to post there. Have a good one buddy
BUT WHAT ABOUT TRUMP :( :( :( :( :(
He also lied about drug use on his paperwork while buying the gun. Which is also felony.
What questions about drug use are on the paperwork? Lawyer pretty told me to ALWAYS lie about previous drug use unless it’s gov paperwork or courts.
When getting a handgun license or registering a firearm in some states there can be questions like “are you a habitual drunkard” and “Are you an addict or habitual user of a controlled dangerous substance?” Lying about this can end up being a felony, at least in Maryland where I pulled the above two questions from.
Do they really word it that way? That’s stupid broad. Applied for a IT Position for a local PD decades ago, the wording was very clearly “Have you ever done any illegal drugs; List every instance and explain”.
I did not end up applying.
Lawyer pretty told me to ALWAYS lie about previous drug use
Would actually be hilarious if you’re clean.
“Have I ever smoked marijuana? Well, no, I haven’t. So I better lie about this and check ‘yes’ just like my lawyer advices.”
The form is ATF4473, it is a government form, and lying on it is a felony.
“Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.”
Not entirely relevant here but I’ll say it anyway.
I fully support people not getting in trouble over lying on this question due to the marijuana inclusion.
Its funny that he got caught because of his memoirs book where he mentions a period of being on drugs and it coincided with him filling out a gun form saying he was not.
Pretty tame by addict standards.
I wonder how many gun loving libertarians will be at the defense of Hunter.
For real - any actual libertarian would be against the charges because being in possession of drugs shouldn’t be a barrier to owning a firearm. Something tells me they won’t be looking at it that way, though.
Shouldn’t make assumptions to absolve anyone of tax evasion. Its very common with rich people. Why make excuses for this guy? Just cause it would prove the right wingers right?
I personally think right wingers are pretty stupid but if the truth is in the right wings favor then we just gotta suck it up and accept
The article said his exgf tossed it into a dumpster, but that wasn’t what the doj found problematic. No, it’s that he seemingly bought it while addicted. If American conservative latch onto this, you may tell them they’re advocating for most of their friends/family to face felony charges.
Hunter Biden will plead guilty to two federal tax misdemeanors and one charge tied to gun possession
Not exactly great but nothing conspiracy related you’all.
I mean it’s actually good they prosecuted him, shows that they will go after people who commit crimes regardless of politics. This hurts the conservative narrative.
Is this all that was on this “laptop” I keep seeing people meme about? I haven’t paid the whole situation much attention but this seems like a lot less of a deal than what some people were making it out to be.
Um, sort of. Biden will plea guilty to two counts Federal misdemeanor of willful failure to pay income taxes (26 USC § 7203). Additionally, has entered into a pretrail diversion agreement on a felony charge of possession of a gun by a person who is addicted to illegal drugs. The agreement requires the defendant to comply with particular conditions set in the deal to avoid prosecution.
While none of this per se is from the “laptop”, an investigation was opened up and these issues were discovered along the way. The original investigation was into any kind of money laundering scheme and thus it involved his taxes. Biden’s lawyer indicated:
With the announcement of two agreements between my client, Hunter Biden, and the United States Attorney’s Office for the District of Delaware, it is my understanding that the five-year investigation into Hunter is resolved.
So given that, that is pretty much the end of any kind of criminal investigation. Each count can offer a fine up to $25,000 and 1 year minus a day prison time. However, considering that he is pleading guilty it will be significantly less than that. In fact, I believe I read somewhere that the DOJ was recommending probation, fine, and paid back taxes which is pretty consistent with how post-1980s IRS deals with tax evasion.
I think Trump’s response is classic however:
Wow! The corrupt Biden DOJ just cleared up hundreds of years of criminal liability by giving Hunter Biden a mere “traffic ticket.” Our system is BROKEN!
One… Hundreds of years? Really? Two. Yeah, funny thing when you cooperate with investigators and have a competent legal representation, they tend not to want to throw the book at you. Three. STOP NOT PAYING YOUR LAWYERS DIPSHIT!! It really runs the pool down of lawyers that represent on complex legal issues pro bono.
That last one I cannot stress enough. Proper legal representation is critical to not getting railroaded. If you’ve got a pretty toxic reputation where few if any lawyers will work with you, you better buckle up and say “choo choo”.
Damn, dude got caught because his dad is Joe Biden. Hope my dad never becomes the president of the United States.
It is a little ironic given how Joe Biden is expanding the IRS.
I’ve mostly seen the laptop being related to the accusations of quid quo pro between Hunter, Joe, and some Ukrainian businessmen or officials. The same accusations as the FBI informant.
There were a bunch of photos and emails from the laptop but it seems they mostly just want to use it against Joe.
There’s no way that laptop didn’t have extra shit put on it. Im not a fan of Biden by any stretch, but the whole thing is just silly and murky. Could there be some possibility of corruption with the Bidens? Absolutely - but this laptop will never prove anything
From the hunter Biden laptop Wikipedia
Neither analyst could verify the vast majority of the data, nor could they find clear evidence of tampering but they note “key pieces of evidence useful in discovering tampering were not available.” In some cases, The Post matched content to other sources “that the experts were not able to assess”. The unverifiable emails included some prominently reported previously by other news outlets. The analysis found that people other than Hunter Biden had created six new folders on the drive over a week after the original report by the New York Post and months after the laptop had been taken into FBI custody. It also found that data had been accessed and copied off the drive by people other than Hunter Biden over the course of nearly three years.
The whole thing is a bunch of disinfo bullshit
The GOP accusations were a tonne of child porn and conspiracied themselves into proof of murder, pedophilia rings and all sorts of crime. The laptop likely didn’t exist, and if it did, certainly wasn’t his.
Most federal charges end in plea deals. Only dumb dumbs try to win at trial.
The other guy will eventually plea. It would be stupid not to.
Paraphrasing Ron White
He has the right to remain silent, but doesn’t have the ability…
So President’s sons are no longer offlimits. Sweet. Soon an ex-President, and then maybe we can actually manage to impeach a sitting official that I hope is someone on SCOTUS.
Honestly? Even though Trump fans don’t give a shit about rational arguments, it’s nice to know they can’t pretend there’s no recent precident for charging a president’s family with crimes.
Good. If someone breaks the law they should be charged, not a really hard concept to understand.
I mean this completely apolitically - has anyone ever seen Hunter Biden and Jordan Peterson in the same place at the same time?
Remember, the trump sycophants have ZERO capacity for nuance.
As much as any conviction of trump is downplayed to “not even a big deal” or “nothing burger”, every conviction of a perceived “enemy” is automatically on par with them taking full responsibility for perpetrating a mass genocide.
This will just be seen as ambiguously “guilty” and the cookoos will have all the catharsis and “OMGzzz!” reaction as if he was convicted at a jury trial of multiple crimes against humanity.
If he were poor and Black, he would’ve gotten 20 years. Surely there will Lib outrage?
Has a sentence been handed down yet?
All indications are that he will not serve any time in exchange for the plea deal.
Would you mind sharing some of these indications?
Sure! See paragraphs 2 and 5:
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/20/1087173827/hunter-biden
You’re welcome!
Guess we will see what happens when it all shakes out. No sense getting worked up over something that hasn’t happened yet
Ok
The president can pardon any federal charge.
You can’t be pardoned until you’re convicted.
Unfortunately not true; Trump pardoned several of his allies pre-trial, shutting down the process down before convictions could be secured. This included, notably, a Mossad agent responsible for recruiting US military personnel as assets; Steve Bannon, who on top of everything else was facing fraud charges for all the money that disappeared from the border wall crowd funding scam; and Kenneth Kurson, who ran a pro-Trump “newspaper” owned by Kushner, who was facing charges for cyber stalking Trump opponents.
