• OpenStars@discuss.online
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    4 months ago

    I have responded to so many of these “who tho” requests, but they all end up in silence without even a reply. At this point I’m thinking it’s some kind of script that sea lions were told to follow.

    • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      4 months ago

      Oh 100%. They are completely full of shit. There is no answer you could give them that would satisfy them and they were never asking the question in good faith to begin with. Its also not really an important question. Its something we can answer at the convention.

      Literally almost all Democrats poll 10-20 points higher than Biden. So the answer is “any of them”. Literally any Democrat could would be enough of an improvement to stop Trump in his tracks.

      And there are some solid picks out there. I really think Kamala would be fine; she would invigorate the african-american vote, and guarantee us black-woman voters (which might be a big fucking problem if she isn’t the nominee). Newsom is like, greased-up-deaf-guy slick, but he’s got a machine behind him. I would want someone progressive like Witmer, but I just don’t care at this point. Any one. I think the most strategic choice would be Andy Beshear (2x Democratic southern governor like Bill Clinton; steal Kentucky from the Republicans) would be a very smart strategic choice.

      • Sanctus@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        4 months ago

        Kamala would sway any centrists towards Trump hands down. There is no brand recognition here besides maybe AOC and she’d fit a VP pick better. I fear a new candidate will only fracture us and ensure a Trump victory. There’s so much at stake for such uncertainty. I can say I will vote for whoever is opposing Trump and Project 2025. I just hope more than half the country is seeing all this shit and thinking “Nah, I dont want a king.”

        • OpenStars@discuss.online
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          It is a worthwhile fear. As is doing nothing. Both are very valid fears.

          About the king though, that ship has sailed. It would take an act of Congress to fix that, hence there is basically no chance before the election and possibly not ever afterwards. Best we can do is a god-king emperor that chooses not to exercise their powers, or else does so really sneakily so that we can’t tell the difference - since ofc we are unable to even ask. We will literally never know if it is not happening - though ofc when it becomes really obvious that it is being used, then we’ll know. As such, Democracy is dead, long live our next king, whoever they may be.

        • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          4 months ago

          You dont need name/ brand recognition at this level. Its the presidency and there will only be two options. Its the wrong rule-stick for this level of race. If this were a house race or even a senate seat, sure. But not for whomever will carry the Democratic nomination.

          I fear a new candidate will only fracture us

          This is a weird talking point that has suddenly become very consistent.

          Bro. We’re already fully fractured and its Biden thats done the fracturing. Don’t fear the unknown: fear the known failure the commentators here have been telling you that you are pot-committed to. Thats a far far far bigger concern than not going to the convention with a candidate in hand.

          • Sanctus@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            4 months ago

            Yeah I can’t really agree with just about anything you said. We weren’t fractured until people decided the debate meant the world and his actual work in office right now doesn’t mean shit.

            • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldOP
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              4 months ago

              You are living in a delusional fantasy. Biden’s polling was CATASTROPHIC before the debate. Why?

              Because Biden split the party in how he has handled Gaza.

              Its unbelievable the amount of delusion people around here try and persist with.

              • Sanctus@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                4 months ago

                Definitely not, maybe for terminally online people. But for most of the actual democratic american populace Gaza didn’t mean that much. Thats the sad truth, people mostly care about what’s happening at home, centrists especially.