I mean I do care about it in the sense that I care about not wanting the US to become even more of a white supremacist Christian fascist imperialist genocidal autocracy than it already is. But I don’t see anything I can do about it that would be even remotely effective. And more than that I just don’t see anyone else who actually cares about it enough to even try to do something about it so what good is me “caring” even supposed to do?

Now I do see a lot of white liberals (and “progressives”, and even some white people who consider themselves leftists) panicking about it. But then when pressed about what is to be done to stop it, their solution is always, always, ALWAYS just “vote for (Genocide) Joe”, which tells me they don’t actually care about Project 2025, they just want to use it as a cudgel to get me to vote for the same ghouls who are blowing up Palestinians and who have let the spooky scary Republican Party get this powerful. But when I point out to them that they obviously don’t really care because they aren’t interested in addressing the roots of fascism or doing anything real to stop fascism, they get all indignant and upset at me, call my takes “disturbing”, “monstrous”, “privileged”, “psychotic”, and after getting that a bunch I do have to wonder if maybe I just have some massive blind spot and am getting this wrong. But they won’t tell me what is actually factually wrong about what I say.

Besides, what do they want me to do about it? They can’t seriously expect me to back a party that loves genocide, but they won’t suggest anything else.

Idk I just feel like the majority of people I see raising a fuss about Project 2025 and the threat of a “Trump dictatorship” are comfortable, privileged white liberals, usually white queer liberals, who have never had to worry about the government targeting their demographics until the last few years. I and every other queer poc I know is like, “oh, they’re going to go after me for another thing? Sure whatever, put it on the pile of other shit they throw at us, what’s one more? Now let’s get back to trying to stop the fascist Democratic Party from stealing money from our paychecks to bankroll a genocide against some of the actual most vulnerable and oppressed people in the world. If Project 2025 actually lands here we’ll fight that too, but we will NEVER throw away our solidarity with the wretched of the earth to preserve what comfort we do have.”

Please Hexbearians, tell it to me straight: Is Project 2025 something we actually need to pay attention to and if so what can we actually do about it? Or is the furor over it just a bunch of fragile white people panicking because they might finally be lumped in with the rest of us and finally get targeted for oppression too?

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    5 months ago

    The way I see it is:

    1. Project 2025 isn’t contingent on the year 2025 and can be implemented in 2025+4n where n is a positive integer. Therefore, Project 2025 should be understood as Project 2025+4n where n = 0.

    2. In modern US electoral politics, a party doesn’t control the presidency for more than 3 terms (and even considering US electoral politics in general, anything longer than 3 terms is rare. It’s basically founding fathers shit, FDR + Truman hogging the presidency for 5 consecutive terms, and post-Civil War 19th century Republicans controlling the White House). Since Democrats control the White House in 2021, we can expect the GOP to be in power by 2021+12=2033 at the latest.

    3. Democrats won’t do shit to actually stop a Project 2025+4n for any n from coming to fruition.

    4. Since the GOP is almost certainly guaranteed to control the White House by 2033 per (2) and since Democrats won’t do shit to stop Project 2025+4n per (3), Project 2025+4n is an inevitability and will come to pass.

    5. Therefore, orgs should understand that Project 2025+4n will come to pass and act accordingly and understand that people who speak of Project 2025+4n as if it weren’t an inevitability are opps trying to sheepdog them back to the Democrats.