• HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
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    5 months ago

    No they are not both diseases. psychopathy is not caused by infection or is it communicable. They have no basis for comparison. Also do you know anything at all about rabies progression? Its about the worst disease you can have if you have gone passed the point of no return to treat it.

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      5 months ago

      Not all diseases are communicable or infectious. Psychopathy is a serious neurological pathology that robs humans of anything resembling humanity. That makes it a hell of a lot worse than rabies to my mind, but of course that’s debatable. Regardless, I’m not sure how ranking one horrible affliction against another makes much difference for this analogy.

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          5 months ago

          Do you formulate your opinions based on reasons you can articulate or is this just a fleeting thought you’re having?

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            5 months ago

            I already expressed it. rabies is a communicable disease. What most people think about with diseases. Diseases that can spread and cause an epidemic. Not like a genetic fault or from personal trauma. They are just not analogous. Or do you want to know about rabies in general from my earlier comment. Someone had a good writeup but I can’t find it but this has it listed pretty well if it remains untreated and one dies from it. https://www.verywellhealth.com/rabies-symptoms-1298793#toc-acute-neurologic-period

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                5 months ago

                This is sorta awkward as i feel I should be asking you this. Analogy is about comparing things that are analogous or that share a relevant property. Does your definition differ?

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                  You know what, I’ll help you out. Why not. We put down rabid dogs for two reasons. They pose a danger to everyone around them, and we can’t cure them. Psychopathy has these same relevant features. If you want to defeat this argument, your goal should be to attack the dog-human component of the analogy, not the disease component. Why? Well, because even if I granted that rabies and psychopathy do not share the relevant features of being incurable and dangerous, we would just be back to square one, when I point out that:

                  1. We put down dogs that attack children. And since dogs and humans are both animals, we should put down humans who attack children, too.

                  If you follow my advice and instead attack the human-dog comparison, you stand a better chance of defeating this analogy. Spoiler alert though, your efforts will fail. This is a really good analogy.

                  To succeed you’ll need to abandon your focus on moral justification and turn instead to the practical matters of administering a government. Why? Well, because despite your own feelings on the matter the vast majority of people have a strong intuition that evildoers should be destroyed, and you’ll have a better chance convincing them to get rid of the death penalty by pointing out that killing dangerous psychopaths is impractical rather than immoral.

                  You’re welcome. Don’t bother responding, because I blocked you.

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                    thats fine but for others I never argued anything but that it was not a good analogy. You have blocked me so its to late but if you had used something better to begin with to argue your point then I would likely have had no part in the convo. that being said early on I said mercy killing. it sounds from your ending you view killing psychopaths as mercy killing but from their viewpoint they are not suffering. those with rabies from their own viewpoint are suffering greatly.