• Envis10n@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    It’s not a water block that costs $800 though. It’s a prototype water block that they estimated the cost of producing to be around $800 given R&D, labor, materials, etc.

    It was never meant to be a production ready product, and it should never have been treated as such.

    The issue with the auction is due to the fact that they sent Billet numerous emails claiming to have prepared it to be shipped back, including one in which they said they would send tracking info shortly. They didn’t know it was being auctioned off until afterward. And Linus didn’t contact them about compensation until 3 hours after GNs video went live.

    These are facts, backed by actual evidence which you can see for yourself in GNs latest HW news.

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      The product costs over $800. I’m not talking about the prototype. And sure “they” sent Billet multiple emails. That means one person sent the emails and then failed to follow up on them. The 100+ people at the company are not responsible for what happened, the 2-3 people that should have dealt with it are.

      And Linus didn’t contact them about compensation until 3 hours after GNs video went live.

      Okay? But he is compensating them. That is all I said.

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        11 months ago

        The 100+ people at the company are not responsible for what happened, the 2-3 people that should have dealt with it are.

        That’s not how businesses work.

        Those 2-3 people were acting as employees of the company, executing business for the company. The company is responsible for those actions.

        You can’t just hand-wave it away as “our employees suck at their jobs”.

        You hired them. You authorized them to do those jobs. You are responsible for the manner in which they were done (or not done)

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          11 months ago

          Sure, but people are acting like Linus himself is somehow directly responsible for it, some people even acting like it’s intentionally malicious, when it’s more just lack of oversight.

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        11 months ago

        Billet estimated the cost of the prototype to be $800. They never sent them a product.

        Linus said “they agreed on compensation” and yet billet has stated they never responded to his offer, that he sent literal hours after GN posted the main video. Linus lied here. He can say he is compensating them all he wants, but there has not been any agreement made between the parties involved. They didn’t want payment, they wanted their fucking prototype back.

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          Billet estimated the cost of the prototype to be $800.

          You already have incorrect information. That is the cost of the actual product not the cost of the prototype.

          And he did not lie, he said agreed to compensate them which he did do. That doesn’t require an agreement between parties, he decided he would do it which is objectively true.

          They didn’t want payment, they wanted their fucking prototype back.

          They can make another one with the money. It’s not like they took the CAD files. It’s a manufactured piece of copper. It can be rebuilt.