Sounds like it’s a quick primary? So will VPs be picked before the nomination is finalized? Can multiple candidates pick the same VP? If after the nomination, it has to be pretty fast. Pick the second place finisher?
Sounds like it’s a quick primary? So will VPs be picked before the nomination is finalized? Can multiple candidates pick the same VP? If after the nomination, it has to be pretty fast. Pick the second place finisher?
No. There’s a reason we amended the Constitution not to do that. The system prior to the 1804 election created a deadlock between two candidates that took the House of Representatives (which is responsible for breaking said deadlocks) thirty-six attempts to try to break the tie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
And if it’s just for one party vs both, what would that be bad?
I get why it was changed for VP for the dem vs Republican nominee. But why wouldn’t we want, as a party, better representation on who we voted for.
That’s exactly what happened in 1800. Both Jefferson and Burr, who were from the same party, tied in the electoral college vote. Some people in the party didn’t like Jefferson, but they but didn’t like the opposing party even more.
Each electoral college member got two votes. So all the electoral college members who were part of what would be the winning party ended up casting one vote for Burr and one vote for Jefferson, resulting in a tie. (Due to slow communication in those days, they all assumed someone else was going to be the one who would cast the tie-breaking vote.)
The tie went to the House of Representatives to break it, as is specified in the Constitution. Unfortunately, neither Burr nor Jefferson got the majority vote needed even after thirty-five separate votes. (Note that, in the US House of Representatives and the Senate, a “majority vote” is not “more than 50%”. Typically, you must get 2/3 of the votes in order to win.) On the thirty-sixth vote, Alexander Hamilton managed to convince some others to vote for Jefferson, and he got the majority vote he needed and became president.
Ok, but that’s for the EC and for presidential and VP nominees by the EC.
In the dnc we have delegates with 1 vote for their nominee. If the delegates vote for 1 dem and another gets the 2nd amount of votes, then they’d be Pres and VP nominees for the dnc. Or actually do ranked choice for dnc nominees to get voter ranking of nominees.
How is it better for a presidential nominee to pick who they want vs listening to the peoples actual preferences.
Ah, that’s what you meant. A presidential nominee will typically pick someone who’s different enough from them (but that they still fundamentally agree with) that people who felt underrepresented by the presidential nominee pick will feel represented by the vice presidential nominee pick. That’s the general logic behind who becomes the VP pick.