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    3 months ago

    That’s patently false. Before agriculture, societies were just tribes of at most a hundred individuals, with not much in the way of hierarchy due to the lack of division of labor, essentially a very primitive form of anarcho-communism. Humans are extremely empathetic and there’s plenty of evidence that prehistoric humans took care of people with disabilities or with serious injuries despite them possibly (not necessarily) being a liability for the tribe in terms of food-to-labor ratio.

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      3 months ago

      Tribes that fought each other for hunting grounds

      The taking care of your own when it’s a handful of people doesn’t scale up to millions

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        Tribes that fought each other for hunting grounds

        So you agree that by human nature humans can do both good and bad things, and that society is the one that imposes which ones we do?

        The taking care of your own when it’s a handful of people doesn’t scale up to millions

        It kinda does, look at Cuba. Peaceful as it gets, extremely high number of doctors per capita to the point of exporting doctors in times of crisis in other countries, fastest country to vaccinate its population against COVID, guaranteed housing for everyone, really low crime rates and no mafias or drug cartels… You can accuse Cuba of many things, but it proves you can take care of millions of people

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            3 months ago

            A comment as smart as your username. Why take actual data when you can take personal experience, amirite?

            Edit: my comment was written before links were provided through an edit to the previous comment

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                Your source aren’t even related to anything the conversation talked about. You’re bringing an article by a Washington-based think tank to talk about oppression in Cuba, and the economic conditions of an island under an economic blockade. How does that invalidate, or even remotely have anything to do with, my previous points? The conversation was about “taking care of people instead of being violent”. That Cuba manages to do so even in a context of relative poverty, tells us a lot about what humans can do “when talking about millions”

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                  3 months ago

                  There are protests in Cuba and they are dealt with violently

                  Also pointing out inequality (not poverty) is relevant to discussions about taking care of people

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                    3 months ago

                    Protests in Cuba are dealt with in a more peaceful manner than the literal riot-geared cops violently kicking protestors out of universities in the USA for daring to oppose a genocide.

                    Please enlighten me about inequality in a price with guaranteed state jobs and price controls