It’s weird, because having spent a lot of time with them, it always seemed to me, that a lot of “right-wingers” are misanthropes who just need a group to hate and a reason to hate said group. Then they acquire a right-wing (preferably radical) ideology and retroactively rationalize their hate with that. And I do know even self-defined far-right people (if not that many) who don’t just blindly hate any group (I know, weird) but most of them in my opinion just hate everyone and everything but only letting you know about the minorities don’t like.
Every cuntservative talking point is a lie wrapped around a kernel of truth that they don’t even care if it makes sense as long as they feel it gives them permission to hate.
Not truth, just what they feel ought to be true because of some backwards ass reasoning that sounds semi-logical when you have a room-temp IQ and you don’t think about the thing for more than a second
I’m going to disagree with you here because I think you are missing part of their tactics.
I’ll give an example:
The whole ‘schools leaving out kitty litter boxes for furry kids to poop in’ as Joe Rogan so deliberately spread.
The kernel of truth is that some schools did put kitty litter boxes in some classrooms, but not because of furry kids, rather so in the case of a school shooter that kids have an emergency place to relieve themselves.
The reason why the ‘kernel of truth’ is important to their propaganda is that THERE WILL BE SOME WHO CHECK!
But because they WANT to believe in the most disturbing possibility, when they check and see that yes indeed some classes were issued kitty litter boxes they will stop reading the article there and just get all enthusiastic about their new license to hate, ignoring the actual reasons for the quickly reversed policy.
Without the kernel of truth to their lies, the people who do a tiny bit of research will immediately see their bullshit. So they make sure to craft it around one leverageable and overextended fragment of truth.
Of course what the repugnicunt propaganda faces said WASN’T true. The entire sentence taken in full is factually incorrect, because the actual truth doesn’t push their regressive agenda.
But that doesn’t matter to people actively looking for a reason to hate. And every study shows the rights disdain for education and rational thinking.
The kernel of truth is that yes, some classes had kitty litter boxes setup.
But the reason for it will be ignored by people who want to imagine schools as progressive lifestyle training camps.
Those that choose the path of willful ignorance do it purposefully and deliberately to shield themselves from self-examination, do you really think a single one of them would read 2 sentences on stoicism without angrily shouting about “libruhl commie propuhganda that wants to turn our kids into furries” or something equivalent?
Espousing the obvious virtues of the stoic mindset to them is FIGURATIVELY pearls before swine, there is no amount of rational browbeating that will even dent their absolutely subsumed egos as long as they have even the slightest self-license to hate what they don’t understand.
You have to look at the mechanism of ‘moral causes’ that they choose, and how they justify them publicly.
See, I think this is the mistake you are making: Every justification out of their mouths is just a smoke screen to shield them from being called out for bigotry. Every one. They don’t believe what they are saying, they just want to be an angry voice in a crowd of angry voices and their chosen news media fills them every day with fear, disgust, and party loyalty as the cure.
do you really think a single one of them would read 2 sentences on stoicism
No, I don’t. I expect to share some great writing about their willfull ignorance to others who aren’t.
Like how forums work?
there is no amount of rational browbeating that will even
Didn’t bother to read the article yourself either, eh? Honestly, it’s worth the couple of minutes it takes.
See, I think this is the mistake you are making:
See, this is the mistake I think you’re making. You’re not trying to have a conversation. If you want to assume people you’re writing to know nothing and understand nothing, who you don’t need to listen to, consider vlogging, maybe?
The quality of conversations about the reasons of willfull ignorance is much higher in that article than in your reply. Theres fascinating ideas. Quotes from literally the span of a couple of thousand years. So clearly it’s not a simple thing, and we have been aware of it, so why does it persist?
Belangia helpfully adds: “A-gnoia means literally ‘not-knowing’; a-mathia means literally ‘not-learning.’ In addition to the type of amathia that is an inability to learn, there is another form that is an unwillingness to learn. … Robert Musii in an essay called On Stupidity, distinguished between two forms of stupidity, one he called ‘an honorable kind’ due to a lack of natural ability and another, much more sinister kind, that he called ‘intelligent stupidity.'”
Belangia also quotes Glenn Hughes, from an essay entitled “Voegelin’s Use of Musil’s Concept of Intelligent Stupidity in Hitler and the Germans,” providing a further elucidation of the concept of amathia (italics in the original):
“The higher, pretentious form of stupidity stands only too often in crass opposition to [its] honorable form. It is not so much lack of intelligence as failure of intelligence, for the reason that it presumes to accomplishments to which it has no right … The stupidity this addresses is no mental illness, yet it is most lethal; a dangerous disease of the mind that endangers life itself. … [S]ince the ‘higher stupidity’ consists not in an inability to understand but in a refusal to understand, any healing or reversal of it will not occur through rational argumentation, through a greater accumulation of data and knowledge, or through experiencing new and different feelings … We may say that the reversal of a spiritual sickness must entail a spiritual cure.”
Reading it fully is better, because the author of that article quotes other authors who quote essays and to keep that straight, it’s easier just to read it from the link.
You know this isn’t about male or female, it’s about promoting hate.
It’s weird, because having spent a lot of time with them, it always seemed to me, that a lot of “right-wingers” are misanthropes who just need a group to hate and a reason to hate said group. Then they acquire a right-wing (preferably radical) ideology and retroactively rationalize their hate with that. And I do know even self-defined far-right people (if not that many) who don’t just blindly hate any group (I know, weird) but most of them in my opinion just hate everyone and everything but only letting you know about the minorities don’t like.
Every cuntservative talking point is a lie wrapped around a kernel of truth that they don’t even care if it makes sense as long as they feel it gives them permission to hate.
Not truth, just what they feel ought to be true because of some backwards ass reasoning that sounds semi-logical when you have a room-temp IQ and you don’t think about the thing for more than a second
I’m going to disagree with you here because I think you are missing part of their tactics.
I’ll give an example:
The whole ‘schools leaving out kitty litter boxes for furry kids to poop in’ as Joe Rogan so deliberately spread.
The kernel of truth is that some schools did put kitty litter boxes in some classrooms, but not because of furry kids, rather so in the case of a school shooter that kids have an emergency place to relieve themselves.
The reason why the ‘kernel of truth’ is important to their propaganda is that THERE WILL BE SOME WHO CHECK!
But because they WANT to believe in the most disturbing possibility, when they check and see that yes indeed some classes were issued kitty litter boxes they will stop reading the article there and just get all enthusiastic about their new license to hate, ignoring the actual reasons for the quickly reversed policy.
Without the kernel of truth to their lies, the people who do a tiny bit of research will immediately see their bullshit. So they make sure to craft it around one leverageable and overextended fragment of truth.
Putting out kitty litter boxes doesn’t make the sentence “kitty litter boxes for furries to poop in”" true in any way in my opinion.
So “kernel of truth” for conservatives is if the sentence has a different meaning if you don’t read it all the way through? Makes sense, but, ugh.
Of course what the repugnicunt propaganda faces said WASN’T true. The entire sentence taken in full is factually incorrect, because the actual truth doesn’t push their regressive agenda.
But that doesn’t matter to people actively looking for a reason to hate. And every study shows the rights disdain for education and rational thinking.
The kernel of truth is that yes, some classes had kitty litter boxes setup.
But the reason for it will be ignored by people who want to imagine schools as progressive lifestyle training camps.
Well I think we see the phrase “kernel of truth” differently, and that’s really not the issue here.
The issue is the willfull ignorance this bullshit relies on.
https://howtobeastoic.wordpress.com/2016/01/19/one-crucial-word/
Those that choose the path of willful ignorance do it purposefully and deliberately to shield themselves from self-examination, do you really think a single one of them would read 2 sentences on stoicism without angrily shouting about “libruhl commie propuhganda that wants to turn our kids into furries” or something equivalent?
Espousing the obvious virtues of the stoic mindset to them is FIGURATIVELY pearls before swine, there is no amount of rational browbeating that will even dent their absolutely subsumed egos as long as they have even the slightest self-license to hate what they don’t understand.
You have to look at the mechanism of ‘moral causes’ that they choose, and how they justify them publicly.
See, I think this is the mistake you are making: Every justification out of their mouths is just a smoke screen to shield them from being called out for bigotry. Every one. They don’t believe what they are saying, they just want to be an angry voice in a crowd of angry voices and their chosen news media fills them every day with fear, disgust, and party loyalty as the cure.
No, I don’t. I expect to share some great writing about their willfull ignorance to others who aren’t.
Like how forums work?
Didn’t bother to read the article yourself either, eh? Honestly, it’s worth the couple of minutes it takes.
See, this is the mistake I think you’re making. You’re not trying to have a conversation. If you want to assume people you’re writing to know nothing and understand nothing, who you don’t need to listen to, consider vlogging, maybe?
The quality of conversations about the reasons of willfull ignorance is much higher in that article than in your reply. Theres fascinating ideas. Quotes from literally the span of a couple of thousand years. So clearly it’s not a simple thing, and we have been aware of it, so why does it persist?
Reading it fully is better, because the author of that article quotes other authors who quote essays and to keep that straight, it’s easier just to read it from the link.
ah, not really the intent of it though that’s a nicer thing to tell the other kids
Those are called bathrooms, and I believe conservatives have some gripes about them as well.