• lauthals@feddit.de
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    That’s not what I mean. Let’s just look at one person: the person will not just appear as a whole at the blue portal, right? First there will be, I don’t know, the left arm, then the left side of the torso, the middle part… and so on. That’s what I meant with centimeter by centimeter, atom by atom - pushing through the portal. Would you agree?

    At least that’s how it’s in the game. It’s not that you are touching one portal, despawn and appear at the other portal, right?

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      Yeah they kinda lose ground under them as the portal goes through them, they aren’t pushed, they are moved through space. No additional force or momentum is ever applied.

      In the game you aren’t pushed through ever, you walk through or fall through them. You appear at the other side of the door.

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        Yes. And you said it correctly: they are moved through space. Now tell me: at which speed are they moved through space?

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          No speed at all, the portal doesn’t give or create energy and they were stationary as they passed through

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            So, you say, they are moving without speed. Which could only mean when one person touches the portal in one millisecond, his complete body just disappears completely from the rails and in the same millisecond his body appears behind the other portal.

            That’s not how portals in the game work. That’s rather how the transporter in Star Trek works.

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              Who even said anything about teleporting the whole body?

              The portal is moving into him so as the parts of him go through they appear on the other side like a door

              Think of it as a portal falling on you and another on the floor next to you, as it falls your head goes through and your head appears through the portal on the ground and the rest of the body goes through as it falls until the portal lands on the floor and you’re standing on that same floor but in the other place as the portals are still connected.

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                Nobody said it’s teleporting the whole body. But that was my only explanation of how something can move without speed.

                But great, that’s what I wanted to clarify the whole time. I think my explanations were too complicated, sorry.

                So, taking your example:

                When the portal falls on me - as soon as it reaches my neck. Only my head is coming out of the other portal, literally right above the ground. Correct?

                As the portal keeps falling down, more and more of my body comes out of the other portal until my whole body is out of it. Correct?

                Which leads to the fact that my head was moving from right above the ground to the height of my body. Correct?

                So my head moves upwards. And since it takes time for my head to move upwards, we can measure the speed of my head moving upwards. Wouldn’t you agree?

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                  Yeah the falling down portal does help a lot with explanation imo

                  we can measure the speed of my head moving upwards. Wouldn’t you agree?

                  Fair point, we can measure that, it would match the speed of the portal falling. It still won’t launch the person as it isn’t transferred but you can certainly measure the speed of the portal using it.

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                    But now, when you have a moving object (my body) we need a force to stop that momentum. Where does that force come from?