• BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        What solidarity is there to be had with people who are pro NATO and are knee deep in imperialist propaganda?

        In other words:

        Principal Skinner: am i out of touch on this geopolitical issue, as my veiws align with the US State Department?

        Principal Skinner: no its the communists who are wrong

          • immuredanchorite [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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            Social Democracy is the real realization of Marx’s ideals. Communism is for a different kind of man. One who wants war and worker-bees.

            That is fundamentally untrue. It sounds like you haven’t read any Marx and you don’t understand (or don’t want to understand) the history of the communist movement. If you are so sure you are correct, why not approach Marxism with an open mind? To have such incorrect understanding, and at once a lack of curiosity, that just makes it seem like you are anti-intellectual and reactionary… But I am sure that you don’t see yourself that way. I hope not.

            Of course when you live in a “prosperous” country with a generous social safety net it seems like you have a superior system. But that system also extends to all of the nations that were (and are) colonized, subjugated, and overexploited by finance capital… and those people, the vast majority of all people, are not prosperous, they are suffering. You feel like you have it good because you are standing on the backs of others. Your country’s prosperity is also supplemented by fossil fuel extraction that is threatening life on earth… It is also allowed whatever autonomy it has because it is a willing junior partner to US imperialism (finance capital). If Norway ever decided to threaten US strategic interests and exert its complete sovereignty (and Norway had crossed a US government red line), it would just as easily devolve into something worse than what you are trying to paint communism as.

            For the vast majority of people who have lived under socialist systems (current and historical) there has been an impressive, unparalleled, growth in life-expectancy and economic prosperity, and a reduction in poverty and social problems. This is only a fact, and if you had been led to believe differently, it is not your fault. That is intentional. Look at life expectancy in the China from the 1800s to today and compare it to any capitalist country. Look at the life expectancy of the USSR from the 1950s and up to the decade after its overthrow. Why would life expectancy decline when capitalism is a superior system? If you really believe what you are saying, wouldn’t you expect the opposite to have happened?

      • ConsciousLochNess [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        I got a bad impression from you when seeing this reply, decided to check your comment history. You’re a pro-NATO pro-Western invasion liberal, aren’t you?

        You don’t give a shit about solidarity and a decent baseline and protecting the weak, what you want is much uglier.

        But the thing that bothers me most is your own attitude.