• snooggums@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    In fact, the ‘the’ should be removed as it is an intentional way of delegitimizing Ukraine as a separate country. Regional phrasing thing apparently.

    • UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      I heard the word ukraine used to mean like wastelands or swamplands or something like that. And all the Russians would call it that as an insult when it wasn’t an independent nation yet. So when they did become one, the kept the name but dropped the the. So, Ukraine is a prideful name for a strong country. The Ukraine is an insult.

      Not wastelands or swamplands but borderlands

        • UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          So because you’re right, I’m not allowed to be right at all? I never said my reason was the sole reason. I brought up a single point, and your article backed me up.

          You may be more right, but I’m not wrong

          Edit:When Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union, it was referred to as “the Ukraine” because it was a region in a larger country, according to linguists and historians. It would be the equivalent of saying “the Northeast” or “the Rockies” in the United States, said Michael Flier, a professor of Ukrainian philology at Harvard University.

          Russians used the construction “na Ukraine,” roughly “in the Ukraine,” while it was part of the Soviet Union, he said.

          Read your source my dude

          Edit: the man changed his comment so now it looks like I’m arguing the same thing with him.

            • UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              So because you’re right, I’m not allowed to be right at all? I never said my reason was the sole reason. I brought up a single point, and your article backed me up.

              You may be more right, but I’m not wrong

              Edit:When Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union, it was referred to as “the Ukraine” because it was a region in a larger country, according to linguists and historians. It would be the equivalent of saying “the Northeast” or “the Rockies” in the United States, said Michael Flier, a professor of Ukrainian philology at Harvard University.

              Russians used the construction “na Ukraine,” roughly “in the Ukraine,” while it was part of the Soviet Union, he said.

              Read your source my dude