For people rich enough to be covered, that’s the part you’re missing in that simplified analysis.
Funny how we’re looking at the countries with the most equality and where people are the happiest and our reaction is “How about we move in the opposite direction instead?”
The countries where people are the happiest and where there’s the most socioeconomic equality are northern European ones and they all offer a ton of social services but instead we look at the USA where everything is shit if you don’t have the means to pay for it and we’re thinking “Damn, that looks awesome!”
You’re completely mistaken if you think the US model is the solution - you have it completely backwards. The US has one of the highest healthcare costs in the world with WORSE healthcare outcomes. They have the highest spending per capita in the OECD. Also, higher mortality at birth, lower life expectancy, etc. In no uncertain terms, the US pays more for less, and this has been extensively studied and is why any sane government wants to avoid that model.
You think you’ll be getting more? How do you think the shareholders will get paid? Do you think doctors and nurses will cost less in the private system? Will private companies negotiate with pharma to lower drug prices, or just add 20% on top?
I suspect you haven’t thought this through, and are letting your anger lead you to the wrong conclusion. Maybe you could try voting for someone else (and convincing your friends and family to do the same) for the next election.
In Canada, we spend about $8k on healthcare each year per person. This is mostly taxes, but also partly co-pays and private employer insurance.
America spends about $14k per person.
In both the USA and Canada, about 28% of government spending goes to healthcare. In the US that means about ~6k in total government budget from your tax dollars is spent on healthcare, while in Canada it’s about ~7K.
The difference is that the average american also pays an additional $8K in their own after-tax dollars from their pockets in insurance and direct-billing for services.
And for the privilege of paying nearly twice as much, the Americans have a life expectancy of 6 years less than Canadians (76.3 vs 82.6)
yes, you are a liar, we already established that. One of my friends served in the american military for decades… and yes, hes made it REALLY clear what he thinks of them now.
I’m tired of paying more for less. I travel a lot. Despite all the propaganda, the Americans amd Mexicans have much better systems.
For people rich enough to be covered, that’s the part you’re missing in that simplified analysis.
Funny how we’re looking at the countries with the most equality and where people are the happiest and our reaction is “How about we move in the opposite direction instead?”
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The countries where people are the happiest and where there’s the most socioeconomic equality are northern European ones and they all offer a ton of social services but instead we look at the USA where everything is shit if you don’t have the means to pay for it and we’re thinking “Damn, that looks awesome!”
I like how you even downvoted this.
You unironically thinks the US has a better Healthcare system than us?
Cringe.
You’re completely mistaken if you think the US model is the solution - you have it completely backwards. The US has one of the highest healthcare costs in the world with WORSE healthcare outcomes. They have the highest spending per capita in the OECD. Also, higher mortality at birth, lower life expectancy, etc. In no uncertain terms, the US pays more for less, and this has been extensively studied and is why any sane government wants to avoid that model.
Extensively studied by governmemt propaganda outfits while Canadians that don’t want to die raise money and head to Rochester
“anything I disagree with is government propaganda”
Ever noticed IRL everyone hates this fucking system but on the internet you clowns act like it’s integral to your identity?
no
That’s because you don’t talk to people in real life. This is a complete disconnected echo chamber that can’t tell theory from reality
I doubt your claims.
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Must be hard work writing these low-effort 1 liner troll comments in every thread. Hope you’re getting paid for it because otherwise… well…
Goof
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Says the individual who refuses to substantiate their claims.
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You’re not even a good troll, fuck sakes. I probably have met more people working in the Arctic than you do in whatever it is you do.
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You think you’ll be getting more? How do you think the shareholders will get paid? Do you think doctors and nurses will cost less in the private system? Will private companies negotiate with pharma to lower drug prices, or just add 20% on top?
I suspect you haven’t thought this through, and are letting your anger lead you to the wrong conclusion. Maybe you could try voting for someone else (and convincing your friends and family to do the same) for the next election.
In Canada, we spend about $8k on healthcare each year per person. This is mostly taxes, but also partly co-pays and private employer insurance.
America spends about $14k per person.
In both the USA and Canada, about 28% of government spending goes to healthcare. In the US that means about ~6k in total government budget from your tax dollars is spent on healthcare, while in Canada it’s about ~7K.
The difference is that the average american also pays an additional $8K in their own after-tax dollars from their pockets in insurance and direct-billing for services.
And for the privilege of paying nearly twice as much, the Americans have a life expectancy of 6 years less than Canadians (76.3 vs 82.6)
oof, just absolute oof.
You would have to pay me a LOT of money to move to the USA, primarily because of how bad their healthcare is.
You’ve never noticed when Americans take jobs up in Canada, they usually say “fuck this noise” and head home within a year?
No, can’t say I have.
Have several friends who came from the states. The general consensus seems to be more “thank god I escaped there”
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yes, you are a liar, we already established that. One of my friends served in the american military for decades… and yes, hes made it REALLY clear what he thinks of them now.
But dont let the truth hurt your feelings.
Sure buddy. I bet he was an astronaut too.
Just because you are a liar, doesn’t mean the rest of us are.
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