I agreed until I got to the point where the orange guy tells the truth. That’s objectively untrue, on almost everything that he’s said that I can recall hearing or reading. Those one or three things he’s actually been factual about, well, broken clock, twice a day.
On the other side of the aisle, yes and no. Yes because of the part of the article that came before claiming tfg tells the truth; and no because everything else that comes out of their mouths is also objectively untrue, despite redefining the terms.
The real problem liberals have with Trump isn’t with his lies, but rather with him unapologetically stating the actual intentions, without obscuring them in a veil of rhetoric. A noteworthy example was him openly acknowledging that the US occupies Syria for its oil reserves, demonstrating that the human rights defense is merely a pretext. This unveiling exposes the facade behind which liberals hide to justify their government’s atrocities. Consequently, Trump forces them to confront the harsh reality of the United States being a fascist state. That’s what drives them up the wall.
Either I hadn’t started breaking through a lifetime of brainwashing yet, or I didn’t see it. I just found a Guardian article about it. Holy geez, imagine if Cheney had said that wrt Iraq, which was tangentially true. Because iirc, it was over food for oil program wanting to switch from petrodollar to petroeuro. Wow. Keep chipping through my ignorance. Vote changed.
The real problem liberals have with Trump isn’t with his lies
No, it really is. He lies and lies and makes almost everything up, and all every normal person sees is the trump cult eating it all up. Trump says he won, and people go fight for him thinking he did win. Then turns out he admits he lost, and NOW those same trump supporters are angry that he lied to them…when it’s been so obvious to everyone else.
He lies about his intentions, since he clearly likes the power and has profited himself off it, but his supporters think he’s being honest? Maybe he’s being blunt where others would be more formal and evasive, but he’s not being honest, almost ever. If he stands to gain nothing personally, he puts 0 effort into it, and his supporters confuse it as him being honest. It’s so bizarre that they miss it, I genuinely don’t understand it. They just attribute so much purpose to his actions where there is none beyond the need to satisfy his ego and fill his pockets. He couldn’t care less about “exposing the fascist state”, hell, he’s clearly trying to create one under his rule and for his benefit.
It pains me to think that the far left could argue in bad faith, but strawmanning “the libruls” and then making them out to be the radicalized left’s enemy, when they’re the source of most radicalized lefties…it just makes no sense to me.
Nah, it really isn’t because liberals lie constantly themselves. If you think democrats don’t lie about their intentions then you really haven’t been paying attention. It’s precisely what he’s being honest about that’s the problem for people who keep trying to whitewash the US system.
I agreed until I got to the point where the orange guy tells the truth. That’s objectively untrue, on almost everything that he’s said that I can recall hearing or reading. Those one or three things he’s actually been factual about, well, broken clock, twice a day.
On the other side of the aisle, yes and no. Yes because of the part of the article that came before claiming tfg tells the truth; and no because everything else that comes out of their mouths is also objectively untrue, despite redefining the terms.
The real problem liberals have with Trump isn’t with his lies, but rather with him unapologetically stating the actual intentions, without obscuring them in a veil of rhetoric. A noteworthy example was him openly acknowledging that the US occupies Syria for its oil reserves, demonstrating that the human rights defense is merely a pretext. This unveiling exposes the facade behind which liberals hide to justify their government’s atrocities. Consequently, Trump forces them to confront the harsh reality of the United States being a fascist state. That’s what drives them up the wall.
Either I hadn’t started breaking through a lifetime of brainwashing yet, or I didn’t see it. I just found a Guardian article about it. Holy geez, imagine if Cheney had said that wrt Iraq, which was tangentially true. Because iirc, it was over food for oil program wanting to switch from petrodollar to petroeuro. Wow. Keep chipping through my ignorance. Vote changed.
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No, it really is. He lies and lies and makes almost everything up, and all every normal person sees is the trump cult eating it all up. Trump says he won, and people go fight for him thinking he did win. Then turns out he admits he lost, and NOW those same trump supporters are angry that he lied to them…when it’s been so obvious to everyone else.
He lies about his intentions, since he clearly likes the power and has profited himself off it, but his supporters think he’s being honest? Maybe he’s being blunt where others would be more formal and evasive, but he’s not being honest, almost ever. If he stands to gain nothing personally, he puts 0 effort into it, and his supporters confuse it as him being honest. It’s so bizarre that they miss it, I genuinely don’t understand it. They just attribute so much purpose to his actions where there is none beyond the need to satisfy his ego and fill his pockets. He couldn’t care less about “exposing the fascist state”, hell, he’s clearly trying to create one under his rule and for his benefit.
It pains me to think that the far left could argue in bad faith, but strawmanning “the libruls” and then making them out to be the radicalized left’s enemy, when they’re the source of most radicalized lefties…it just makes no sense to me.
Nah, it really isn’t because liberals lie constantly themselves. If you think democrats don’t lie about their intentions then you really haven’t been paying attention. It’s precisely what he’s being honest about that’s the problem for people who keep trying to whitewash the US system.