First of all, the post utilized “sour cream” as an example, so bringing up something like “vegan turkey slices,” a food that explicitly is titled with a mention of the animal-based product that it’s imitating, is most certainly a false equivalence and a bad-faith gesture to bring up in an effort to support your point.
Furthermore, this post has nothing to do with whether or not imitation meat/dairy products are “solutions” to meat consumption, whatever the fuck that is materially supposed to mean, so this is a red herring.
Veganism is an ethical stance. People don’t go vegan out of liking certain imitation products; the consumption comes second once people realize the unethicality of eating the animal-derived variants of said imitation products. Such imitation products do not need to exist for people to go vegan, but they’re tasty for people who enjoy them and don’t want to derive such a taste from animal exploitation.
May I ask: Are you vegan? If so, why push what I can only interpret as concern trolling?
Something doesn’t have to “taste like meat” to taste good.
looks revolting
Something doesn’t have to look pleasant to taste good, and even then, both looks and taste are subjective.
In essence, all you’re asking is “I don’t get why some people like a certain kind of food item that I don’t.” I’m sure you can figure that out with enough thought.
This scenario, however, still remains a false equivalence. Whether or not I’d like a “lab-grown carrot” is context-dependent, and the main context that it significantly depends on is if it tastes good for whatever culinary purpose I want it to serve personally. Also, there is no reason why I need a mock carrot because carrots are not unethical foods to consume anyway, so the context of why I’d even be willing to eat lab-grown carrots over just carrots being omitted from consideration doesn’t help this analogy either.
Plenty of plant-based alternatives can serve a culinary purpose similar to their animal-based counterpart, even if the taste isn’t a 1:1 comparison. Hell, some plant-based alternatives are not even specifically striving to taste similar to their animal-based counterparts. For example, black bean burgers and portobello mushroom burgers taste nothing like any meat-based burger, but they’re still highly favored by vegans. It’s almost as if there are no actual, real, non-arbitrary rules as to what “role” the taste of a certain type of food is supposed to serve.
Besides, this carnist concern trolling is against the rules of both this community and Hexbear in its entirety, so if a post in a vegan-specific community is getting you all to be so upset that you have to make bad faith comments that are merely done as a coping mechanism for your inability to grasp with the fact that people seek ethical alternatives to your murdered-based “delights,” then it’s only for your own good that I take such rules to their logical conclusion. Nobody would go this length to screech about a turkey burger even if they much prefer beef, but that’s because you’re not tilted by something being made with a lean protein instead of red meat because there’s no ethical deviation going on there. However, you are all most certainly tilted by people going through measures to actually avoid the animal exploitation that you have no proper logical justification for funding every single day. It hits you in a way that you need to shit out the most zealous efforts to complain about these plant-based alternatives that you wouldn’t do with literally any other subject.
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First of all, the post utilized “sour cream” as an example, so bringing up something like “vegan turkey slices,” a food that explicitly is titled with a mention of the animal-based product that it’s imitating, is most certainly a false equivalence and a bad-faith gesture to bring up in an effort to support your point.
Furthermore, this post has nothing to do with whether or not imitation meat/dairy products are “solutions” to meat consumption, whatever the fuck that is materially supposed to mean, so this is a red herring.
Veganism is an ethical stance. People don’t go vegan out of liking certain imitation products; the consumption comes second once people realize the unethicality of eating the animal-derived variants of said imitation products. Such imitation products do not need to exist for people to go vegan, but they’re tasty for people who enjoy them and don’t want to derive such a taste from animal exploitation.
May I ask: Are you vegan? If so, why push what I can only interpret as concern trolling?
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Something doesn’t have to “taste like meat” to taste good.
Something doesn’t have to look pleasant to taste good, and even then, both looks and taste are subjective.
In essence, all you’re asking is “I don’t get why some people like a certain kind of food item that I don’t.” I’m sure you can figure that out with enough thought.
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This scenario, however, still remains a false equivalence. Whether or not I’d like a “lab-grown carrot” is context-dependent, and the main context that it significantly depends on is if it tastes good for whatever culinary purpose I want it to serve personally. Also, there is no reason why I need a mock carrot because carrots are not unethical foods to consume anyway, so the context of why I’d even be willing to eat lab-grown carrots over just carrots being omitted from consideration doesn’t help this analogy either.
Plenty of plant-based alternatives can serve a culinary purpose similar to their animal-based counterpart, even if the taste isn’t a 1:1 comparison. Hell, some plant-based alternatives are not even specifically striving to taste similar to their animal-based counterparts. For example, black bean burgers and portobello mushroom burgers taste nothing like any meat-based burger, but they’re still highly favored by vegans. It’s almost as if there are no actual, real, non-arbitrary rules as to what “role” the taste of a certain type of food is supposed to serve.
Besides, this carnist concern trolling is against the rules of both this community and Hexbear in its entirety, so if a post in a vegan-specific community is getting you all to be so upset that you have to make bad faith comments that are merely done as a coping mechanism for your inability to grasp with the fact that people seek ethical alternatives to your murdered-based “delights,” then it’s only for your own good that I take such rules to their logical conclusion. Nobody would go this length to screech about a turkey burger even if they much prefer beef, but that’s because you’re not tilted by something being made with a lean protein instead of red meat because there’s no ethical deviation going on there. However, you are all most certainly tilted by people going through measures to actually avoid the animal exploitation that you have no proper logical justification for funding every single day. It hits you in a way that you need to shit out the most zealous efforts to complain about these plant-based alternatives that you wouldn’t do with literally any other subject.
“Fake” carries negative connotations, like what is my burger made of styrofoam or something?
“The librls are tryin’a make you drink plant based beer!”
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