EDIT: Getting a ton of great responses thanks everyone <3 Once this is up for 24 hours or so Iā€™ll make another edit summarizing everyoneā€™s recs for future reference. Keep ā€˜em coming!

TL;DR Have any recs for non-Apple phones/laptops that have lifespans of at least 5+ years?

Wanted to get everyoneā€™s opinion on want brands/products have worked for them. Iā€™m lightly techy and not afraid to put some effort in, but also donā€™t want to build everything from scratch. I think Appleā€™s products are often anti-consumer, anti-privacy, anti-yadda yadda yadda.

At the same time, with both phones and laptops, Iā€™ve found my Apple products to have double or even triple the lifespan of any other brand. I did my research and bought a $1000+ HP laptop with Ryzen7 a little over two years ago, and due to a flaw in the hinge which is now subject to a class action lawsuit, the screen has cracked and itā€™s mostly unusable. Other purchase havenā€™t failed quite that dramatically but donā€™t tend to last as long. On the other hand, my or my partnerā€™s old Macbooks and iPhones are easily seeing 5+ years of use in addition to software updates.

So let me know whatā€™s worked for you!

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    I would not trust apple products. Self cracking display on laptop? Updates that slow down devices on purpose? no, thanks

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      Never had any issues on any of my macbooks and Iā€™ve had them for over 5 years each. My 2012 mbp still runs as good as the day I got it!

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        I canā€™t say the same about my 2012 mbp, itā€™s been basically useless for like 5 years now.

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          Didnā€™t Apple get hit with a class action lawsuit over their 2011 Macbook Pros frying themselves?

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          Fair enough, youā€™re right they were great. Tbf everything up until the 2015 models were solid, as they were somewhat upgradable. Though, Iā€™ve got a new M1 MAX and itā€™s easily the best laptop Iā€™ve ever owned!

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            Performance wise, sureā€¦ but I also believe thatā€™s the model that, if youā€™re lucky, will fry itself to 100% uselessness, and make your data completely unrecoverable.

            If you must use a MacBook, keep backups, and keep AppleCare on it. Just consider it your apple device subscription.

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      My key caps have been falling off my work provided M1 Air. Thankfully, the keyboard is so crap I can barely tell the difference.

      Ended up repurposing an old XPS 13 that I found in a supply closet as my dev box.

      Wayland+Sway == Infinitely better experience