This was the one soup-throwing which did any damage at all; in this case to the frame.

The penalty is appreciably worse than for minor violent attacks.

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    Those people who disapprove vote. They absolutely matter, and pretending they don’t is why JSO will continue to lose.

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      What the fuck are you even talking about? Do you think the Civil Rights Movement succeeded because White Moderates “voted” in favor of it?

      No, the Civil Rights Movement succeeded because the massive disruptions it caused made it clear that trying to preserve the white supremacist status quo would no longer be possible, and that the only alternative to negotiating concessions to the likes of MLK and the NAACP would be having to deal with the likes of Malcolm X instead.

      Similarly, Just Stop Oil’s path to victory has absolutely fuck-all to do with popular “approval” of their tactics, but everything to do with becoming so disruptive that it becomes worth it to capitulate to their demands to make the protests stop. Just Stop Oil is trying to be the Malcolm X of the climate movement. They don’t want your approval, and they don’t need your approval.

      Spamming the false notion that approval matters all over the thread is nothing but the reactionary pearl-clutching of a concern troll.

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          Okay, let me be clearer: they didn’t vote to “approve” of the protestors. They voted to accede to the protestors demands even though they fucking hated MLK, because they had no choice.

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        Do you think the Civil Rights Movement succeeded because White Moderates “voted” in favor of it?

        It would not have succeeded otherwise, since they were the ones in power.

        Similarly, Just Stop Oil’s path to victory has absolutely fuck-all to do with popular “approval” of their tactics, but everything to do with becoming so disruptive that it becomes worth it to capitulate to their demands to make the protests stop.

        And look how well that’s working out: https://web.sas.upenn.edu/pcssm/commentary/public-disapproval-of-disruptive-climate-change-protests/

        Spamming the false notion that approval matters all over the thread is nothing but the reactionary pearl-clutching of a concern troll.

        Sounds like somebody is butthurt that they realize they don’t actually have a good defense other than nihilism. Refute my points, if you have a problem, but ad hominem attacks aren’t a valid justification why my points are invalid.

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          What part of your study is measuring an irrelevant thing do you not fucking understand?