cross-posted from: https://quokk.au/post/590118

During a video address directed at the people of Lebanon, Netanyahu said: "You have an opportunity to save Lebanon before it falls into the abyss of a long war that will lead to destruction and suffering like we see in Gaza.

  • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    They have nukes. During the cold war the nuclear option was the thing that terrified everyone. Israeli right now is a full blown Rogue state that abso-fucking-lutely will go nuclear if the US pulls support. Forget about the communist-capitalist thing, it’s about some crazed colonialist who believe they should have everything or no one has anything.

    • InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      They won’t.

      They will go nuclear if they get in a desperate position, basically worse than the Yom Kippur War, but short of that they’re not going to bother, and they won’t get in that position, they’re too powerful and most of the middle east is still on fire.

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        3 months ago

        If they got away with all this, they might also believe they can get away with a nuke. If they do they will cite the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings as justifications, saying that the Japanese didn’t surrender to massive firebombing the same way Arabs didn’t surrender to massive bombardment, and thus for both cases nukes are needed.

        This is, of course, monstrous and wrong.

        • InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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          3 months ago

          You are doing the same thing they do, dehumanizing the other side.

          They’re not monsters just hungry for blood, they want the land, all of it, and are in a position that they feel pretty secure that none of their neighbors can seriously threaten them, thats why they’re acting how they are, not fear but secure in their ability to act without repercussion.

          Using a nuke is the equivalent of flipping the table when you’re losing, and they’re winning.

          Can I ask why you think they’re that stupid? Your suggestions show them as very childish actors when it comes to IR, which they haven’t shown any similar behavior in recent memory, they’ve been playing solid moves given their position.

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            3 months ago

            Using a nuke is the equivalent of flipping the table when you’re losing, and they’re winning.

            That tells me everything I need to know about what kind of knowledge level you have about the matter.

            • InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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              3 months ago

              You’re the person who thinks Israel has any reason to use a nuke when they are the dominant conventional power in the region, AND have the full backing of the US, the greatest hyoerpower in human history.

              I can’t even begin to understand your logic beyond ‘well they must be satan somehow’, there’s no rationale to it.