• sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    arrow-down
    22
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    What kills me about this is if the neolib dems had taken just a moment at the primary to cast their vote for undecided to show the Dem leadership that genocide was a non negotiable issue they should do the right thing on, it might have worked.
    It would have cost absolutely nothing, and we might be coasting to an easy victory right now. Instead we’re here.

    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      3 months ago

      What kills me about this is if the neolib dems had taken just a moment at the primary to cast their vote for undecided to show the Dem leadership that genocide was a non negotiable issue they should do the right thing on, it might have worked.

      wait, what’s stopping them? Not voting because it’s not important to them? Sounds like democracy working as intended to me.

    • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      21
      arrow-down
      29
      ·
      3 months ago

      100%

      But look around this place. Its still the same Blue MAGA here trying to bash peoples head in (now for Harris, then for Biden) as before.

      The same people that would demand we drive off a cliff with Biden at the wheel are the ones insisting that we need to support Harris in-spite of her genocide policy, instead of trying to move her on the issue. Like we literally need her to fix her policy or she literally can’t get elected. And its self-evident in the data we have. She’s now losing, not even accounting for the structural biases we should very much expect from RW fuckery and the EC.

      Like just come out against genocide. Its fucking easy. It can be a fucking lie. Just fucking lie to us so we can convince enough people to get you elected Harris.

      • sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        18
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        3 months ago

        Man. I wonder if we are going to lose. Its definitely possible at this point, but hard to imagine. How awful are our dem candidates to lose to an insane peice of human trash like Trump

        • Krauerking@lemy.lol
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          Pro fracking. Anti gun control. Pro Electoral College. Pro “entrepreneur” economics. Can sip a beer and barely look disgusted. Pro war. Pro taxation and tariffs. Anti environmental protections for big businesses. And pro death penalty.

          I mean we already had early 2000 Republican presidents and the Republicans want someone worse and the Democrats that want change don’t want it either.

          So pretty bad.

        • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          11
          ·
          3 months ago

          Oh no they were definable here before. I’ve got the receipts, the saved threads , etc. I mean hell some are mods. But you know what happened? They dumped those accounts, if they weren’t super well known. if you want names I’ve got names.

          • Krauerking@lemy.lol
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            6
            ·
            3 months ago

            Hahaha yeah man people forget how vitriolic and cruel the Blues were when told their candidate might lose.

            Refuse to be told they might need to change tactics and double down on slamming face first into a brick wall for the sake of not having to question their beliefs and having someone else to blame.

            But they are coming back now again that the “hope” has worn off and nothing feels different. Got to punch down to keep their self cope up.

            • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              7
              arrow-down
              7
              ·
              3 months ago

              Punch down to keep the cope up.

              That is a great way to out it. They wouldn’t be as emboldened if not for the also toxic moderation in this place .

            • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              3 months ago

              And you are 💯 correct. I’ve done my best to document it, because to me, its an incredibly important and interesting phenomena. It’s almost exactly what happens to MAGA in their toxic dismissal of a shared reality. I’m going to save this and when I’m a bit more ready with something, I may reach out.