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    1 year ago

    Still waiting for you to cite the risks that outweigh the benefits, now that too much time has passed for you to still thing of it as “rushed”.

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            1 year ago

            They already did, that was done before they launched the vaccines. You still don’t think they are safe, so now it is up to you to prove why. Which you can’t, because you have nothing but your feelings to show for it.

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              They did but it was an abridged version shall we say. Which is fine. It was an emergency and the law foresees this.

              But the cultural shift towards harm avoidance at all costs and general authoritarianism (as clearly on display here on this site) led governments the world over to, use heavy handed tactics, shall we say, to get people to take it.

              I am absolutely not against the vaccines. I got three doses of Pfizer. But I am profoundly against the heavy handed tactics used in deploying them.

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                They completed all of the normal testing. The mRNA vaccines technology is decades old. They did all of the normal testing but the stages were done in parallel and pushed ahead of everything else in the pipe. Had any stage failed the approvals would not have been given. This is an anti-vax meme but it is completely false.

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                But I am profoundly against the heavy handed tactics used in deploying them.

                Ah yes, the heavy handed tactics of checks notes zero consequences to the people who didn’t take it.

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                  Lol “zero consequences”?! They literally let this lady die because she didn’t take it

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                    A lack of privilege is not a consequence. Receiving an organ donation is a gift, not a right.

                    Fact of the matter is there are a lot of people waiting for organs, whomever you give it to somebody else is going to die. When you get an organ transplant you have to take medication that leaves you immuno compromised.

                    So you have two people in front of you in need of an organ but only one organ to give it out. One is up to date on all their vaccinations and has been following their doctors instructions. The other thinks they know better than their doctor and has refused to get vaccinations. Which one of these two people do you think will have a better chance of surviving longer once immnuo compromised from the transplant?

                    “Woman who refused vaccine gets organ transplant, dies of COVID a month later” is a much shittier headline.