Tesla braces for its first trial involving Autopilot fatality::Tesla Inc is set to defend itself for the first time at trial against allegations that failure of its Autopilot driver assistant feature led to death, in what will likely be a major test of Chief Executive Elon Musk’s assertions about the technology.

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    10 months ago

    You can’t just put something on the streets without first verifying it’s safe and working as intended. This is missing for Autopilot. And the data that’s piling up is showing that Autopilot is deadly.

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      First of all what is it that you consider safe? I’m sure you realize that 100% safety rating is just fantasy so what is the acceptable rate of accidents for you?

      Secondly would you mind sharing the data “that’s piling up is showing that Autopilot is deadly” ? Reports of individual incidents is not what I’m asking for because as I stated above; you’re not going to get 100% safety so there’s always going to be individual incidents to talk about.

      You also seem to be talking about FSD beta and autopilot interchangeably thought they’re a different thing. Hope you realize this.

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        There are very strict regulations around what is allowed to be in the streets and what isn’t. This is what protects us from sloppy companies releasing unsafe stuff in the streets.

        Driver assist features like the Autopilot are operating in a regulatory grey zone. The regulation has not caught up with technology and this allows companies like Tesla to release unsafe software in the streets, killing people.

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          10 months ago

          Exactly. Driver assist features. These aren’t something to be blindly relied on and everyone knows this and the vehicle will remind you. Every crash is fault of the driver - not the system.

          Now if you don’t mind showing me the data that’s “piling up is showing that Autopilot is deadly”

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              10 months ago

              I’m still waiting for the data that you said is piling up. You also did not specify what number of accidents you find acceptable for a self driving system. It’s almost like you’re trying to evade my questions…

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                10 months ago

                Give me a breakn The WaPo article is linked above. Also, when it comes to safety, the burden of proof is on those arguing that something is safe.

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                  10 months ago

                  If there’s piles of data it shouldn’t be difficult to prove it’s unsafe.

                  You still haven’t even specified what is considered safe.

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                    10 months ago

                    Stop talking nonsense. The anecdotes that are piling up clearly indicate there is a problem with Tesla’s autopilot.

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                    10 months ago

                    It’s in the weapon article you were already linked, you just keep choosing to ignore it. Another user on my blocked list.