Ugh these people suck so bad. On average, western leftists are worse than useless. Some bullet points are kinda interesting, even if annoying.

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    Just stop shit-posting and dunking entirely and focus on promoting the positive parts of communities with equality in a more strategic way to effect measurable change.

    Communism is grounded in compassion, in the idea of working toward a truly liberated society, not one that merely replaces the oppressors of yesterday with new oppressors today. And yet, when I look at many so-called leftists, I see them betraying that principle every day, more interested in ideological purity or geopolitical “victories” than in standing for justice. They might claim they’re against fascism, but when they excuse brutality and silence in the name of their ideology, I see little difference between them and the right-wing authoritarians they claim to despise.

    Maybe I’m just a soft dick.

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      Just stop shit-posting and dunking entirely

      YOU ARE THE ONE DOING THE SHITPOSTING AND DUNKING RIGHT NOW WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

      focus on promoting the positive parts of communities with equality in a more strategic way to effect measurable change.

      WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU MASSIVE IDIOT
      Also hexbear does a lot of community organising and social events, so what the fuck are you even talking about you massive idiot?

      Communism is grounded in compassion, in the idea of working toward a truly liberated society, not one that merely replaces the oppressors of yesterday with new oppressors today. And yet, when I look at many so-called leftists, I see them betraying that principle every day, more interested in ideological purity or geopolitical “victories” than in standing for justice. They might claim they’re against fascism, but when they excuse brutality and silence in the name of their ideology, I see little difference between them and the right-wing authoritarians they claim to despise.

      HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO THE DISCUSSION GOING ON? CONGRATULATIONS YOU SAID SOMETHING BUT YOU MANAGED TO MAKE IT A COMPLETE NON-SEQUITEUR MAKING YOUR POSITION EVEN MORE VAGUE AND INCOMPREHENSIBLE WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU NEVER TALKED WITH A HUMAN BEING BEFORE?

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      It is the communist movements that you decry as ‘replacing oppressors of yesterday with the oppressors of today’ that have managed to massively improve people’s lives. They are the ones that fought against colonialism and capitalism and achieved some success. Not the people who whine about how bad we are and then just side with the colonial metropoles that exterminate and enslave the rest of the world.

      The sort of actions and policies that we support have been proven to work for the liberation of humanity. You have been proven to work for the world’s enslavement.

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          If you are against the dictatorship of the proletariat as a necessary step, then you are not a communist. I don’t know if that’s what you are saying though, since you are still saying practically nothing at all.

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          Right.

          For you, there is no difference between (people being forced to work 14 hours a day, 6 days a week, having no guaranteed access to housing, education and healthcare, women not being protected from marital SA, having a life expectancy of 30 or so years), and literally the opposite with life expectancy rising by 60% within 30 years.

          You also see no difference between literal old-style colonialism and the lack thereof. Literal pro-colonial white European child is what you are.

          Please, tell us more about compassion and how bad we want to ‘oppress’ people by giving women fundamental rights, providing people in general with essential needs, including housing and healthcare, eliminating illiteracy, etc.

          EDIT: if you want colonialism so much, why don’t you volunteer to be treated as people were treated under the Red Rubber laws?

          Also, it’s funny how you don’t want any authority over you, but want to subjugate non-white people as your slave and near-slaves

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            What? I have no idea where you got that. You just read whatever you want?

            This is my problem, you just make shit up. I want everything in your last paragraph. We don’t need to have an oppressive government to make that happen.

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              What? I have no idea where you got that. You just read whatever you want?

              I don’t accept any oppressor as a step forward.

              Either you do not actually speak about any movement that we support, or you don’t see any difference between before and after they succeeded. Which is it?

              This is my problem, you just make shit up

              I literally listed some of the things that the USSR managed to achieve within the first 30 years of its existence. Pretty sure almost all of that also applies to the PRC (just with the different starting line expectancy).

              I want everything in your last paragraph

              Cool. Then you want the USST, the PRC, Cuba, liberated Korea, etc.

              We don’t need to have an oppressive government to make that happen.

              You claim that every movement that achieved those things was ‘oppressive’. As such, this claim of yours is unsupported.

              EDIT: Also, what is your plan for defending against a NATO invasion?